Not half but a good 15% are the horrible matches with noobs / conquest
More people that quit enlisted is a solution?
Not half but a good 15% are the horrible matches with noobs / conquest
More people that quit enlisted is a solution?
Have to agree with this. Started to do the same a month ago. The only time I stay till the end is when I have exp booster.
We say too many, but I play full games, in fact some leave when we are winning even, the reasons may not be if we donât get first first on first wave leave, I mean that is a very quitter mentality imho, that would make me fight harder and change tactics, not leave.
I only desert conquest, as I get board of those maps, but I have held and won matches at the last base, with seconds to go, quitting is not the way forwards.
Bigger picture hard to say if someoneâs mum say enough games, first cap is well defended, go disconnected, but I donât think there are 1000s of players doing this?
Itâs same as people in planes, see an enemy and suicide, we. Annot force people to fight, the thing that makes me love this game is when there are heated battles and well defended points, you need to think tactically and hope the rest of the team does the sameâŚ
Not attacking anyone, just think this is a little exaggerated and people are entitled to desert if they want to, hopefully they get filled with players⌠AI players, at least they fight.
Because of jumbo and p47 spam
do i have to answer nicely, or precisely?.
just wondering
how you want
right so, iâll get flagged anyway.
right. so, you are more worried about what your teammates does in a free to play, more than finishing what you started.
well, i donât think i can argue with that any further without getting toxic.
so we both agree there is no need to go further.
more like, people that are just there to ruin games and are not really into team play games, yeah, best to get rid of them.
we canât sure allow childish behaviors ( or childish players ) in the first place.
itâs not a child game in the first place.
so⌠yeah, if you tell me, we could get rid of them, and preventing this sort of behavior.
but at the same time, people that leave because of connection issue, thatâs a no no.
they donât deserve to be punished.
We donât need to punish deserters on a casual game.
We need to incentivise them to stay.
And when the game doesnât deliver the fun factor I expect from it, I wonât force my self to play maps or modes I canât avoid on a pre selection. So I leave them.
I canât enjoy conquest. So I simply avoid playing it. And since I canât select only inv maps, I leave it. Itâs that too much to accept? Or I m forced to like and play every map or mode for the sake of others? I play the game for my own fun. I couldnât care less about random teamates I wonât see ever again and had no interaction with them all match long.
i think most of the console player and general average pc is like this, so imo a large portion of the player base would quit and not wait in this case, and yeah i dont like noobs but lobby full of bots are worse.
my teammates are part of my experience in a (citing you) team play game, if a part of the experience sucks yeah i dont want to finish the game.
for finishing what i started im not master chief i dont care
Indeed, this is a serious problem.
Therefore, I suggest:
Both are a good idea. Doesnât even have to tell specific map just game mode would help a lot.
I think itâs better to specify the map and mode.
Because when I get Hermann Goering or Manor for the tenth time, it annoys me.
mh⌠itâs ironic because if that wasnât the case, we wouldnât be here talking, funny, innit?.
so you tell me.
looks like itâs actually needed IF you ask me.
mh⌠again, to me, itâs quite the opposite.
keep people that are actually competent that even if they lose, they donât quit.
and incentivise what?
getting rewarded to do what you are supposed to do?
i swear, people these daysâŚ
but you are not forced to play either if you are going to quit anyway?
" fun factor " canât say much about this as we could argue all the day about different opinions.
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i could ask you the same question.
but i pretty know the answer already
well, yeah? itâs present in the game⌠i mean, different type of experiences and yada yada yada.
otherwise always doing the same thing over and over WILL make you quit much earlier.
but, i suppose youâre not of the same idea. which itâs fine i guess.
i donât really mind it.
as long you quit at the beginning of the game, i guess thatâs fine.
but quitting mid match just because you are not satisfied if your own doing, that is something else.
but you do when you find that your team is full of âbotsâ.
how ironic.
from what iâm experiencing ( as to be honest, i only play custom matches against bots lately ) they can pull up a fight better than some quitters. iâll tell you that much.
bots do play objective.
canât say the same about as well.
but i guess i get your meaning and still remain that enlisted is not for everyone.
well, do you use the chat?
do you collaborate with your own teammates?
we both know the answer. and you canât really complain that much if you are being part of the problem.
which, otherwise you are welcome to suggest something your self.
which, i apologize if i sound arrogant and perhaps " too defensive / attached " to the whole situation giving perhaps false impression, because to be honest i donât really care of what people do as long they do their job instead of whining.
as i stated:
so, again, iâm not really looking for pity excuses or that type of stuff.
up until then, you can either live with it like we others have no choices, or keep bringing up more stuff trying to make a point.
Only they cannot use and build rally points, destroy enemy planes and tanks (except for some snipers who can hit the pilot with their rifle).And also use tanks and planes.And so yes.They are better at everything.
I only started quitting matches when the game started to make winning a requirement to get a reward.
This game canât afford to punish people who leave matches ( even if I strongly support that ideea ) because it still needs to draw in players and have a successful full release.
Sorry to be the bringer of bad news but punishing/rewarding people who leave/donât leave games are isnât gonna happen, not for a long while at least.
Matchmaking giving me a late join as defenders and the first cap is already lost means an instant desert for me or if conquest, a late join where the enemy has all of the caps. If only thereâs an option where you can join on progress matches or not instead of just throwing you at a match thatâs already started.
Aside from people who leave games for personal reasons, or some mentioned above, that nothing can be done about, there are issues that make players desert more often.
So there can be solutions, they wonât fix it 100%, but at least maybe we get 2-3 deserters each game, instead of 10.
Top reasons that could be fixed:
-unwanted gamemode, some people donât like conquest and quit
-bad battlepass task, related to above, as You canât capture a point on invasion defence, this task need to be replaced asap, as well as win requirements, as people will just leave when they sniff defeat in air
-maps, looking at you rivers of swamps, matchmaking with map bans at least could be nice
and finally
-defeat/team filled with bots, since we got no silver update in months and we are mostly back to randomly having team of players, or team of bots, no sane being will play games where they are outnumbered 5:1.
There are deeper issues with last point, that wonât be easy to fix, as itâs a âplayerbaseâ problem, when itâs really game problem if people donât want to play it.
Only quick fix i can think of that makes sense is giving xp bonus to people that stay and play outnumbered games, nothing makes those game suck more than not having a chance to get 50%xp more for win, and itâs not insignificant as i got >80winrate on allies tunisia, so some poor soul gets 80 lossrate as axis.
Deleting win bonus would be omega stupid, but there needs to be balance in xp, if there is no balance in players
fully, just fully agreed with all the above!
but keep in mind if you play the game, you have to play all matches, all of them!!! or some will feel you are doing such a crime against the others and your time in the game.
@ErikaKalkbrenner ok erika, let me keep my way of how i aproach the game, how i spend my time in it and how i enjoy it , my way.
since i m playing for me, not for a random team, you, or anyone on this game⌠its my time/pleasure in game, this isnt a second job. atleast i can keep my freedom to play when i want to play and what map/mode at any given RNG rate on the mm.
we can both agree we have diferent ways to aproach this, imo again, we dont need to punish someone that leaves a match, but we have to reward the ones that stay in them.
there is much more in the game as a ârewardâ besides xp, ranks , wins or looses.
if i m not enjoying a map, a mode, what ever, i rather leave and move on to another setting than wasting my time , witch i have alot but still, in a match i m not enjoying at all.
i queue to play some good invasion, i have my lineup ready for it, game decides, nop, what about a conquest map on some swamps ? no thx! hell no! fuck conquest!
90% of the games you dont really need to communicate with the team but you only need a couple of people that can shoot straight and push, if i see that decent people are on my team i dont quit even if we are losing we can put a fight and maybe even win.
but if the entirety of my team just dont care / they are terribly bad im gonna pass
i didnt have a good game since the release of customgames when i entered the first game with other forum members, if all the fight could be interessing and intense like that one i would not quit even if its conquest but thats what we get 50% bot 35% bad players %15 carry players
most people that quit are just bad at the game and gets frustarted, idk really know why they are playing but ok.
putting a sanction on them its gonna do nothing they are gonna keep quitting but just moving game when they get the penality, and at some point returning and possibly quit again.
nothing, it cant be done nothing