Tired of piss poor mechanics of Enlisted

There been talks, news and patches of New “Matchmaking” systems for long as i can remember.

For even the minimum requirements are not met that the system even could give equal or even close of human players on both teams.

How fucking hard is that to implement?
And yes I always desert when I see this shit, not going to carry or support games like this.

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Don’t even feel bad lol, You are literally doint your team a favour in those matches. You struggling to pull 1/100 win (like in this screen, where it’s clearly one sided stomp) will just make match longer.

Unless You have booster (get 4-stack then maybe), it’s beneficiall to cut losing matches short and try to play matches that are at least winnable, literally 50% more xp and no downside (You can win 3 short conquest in the time you would try to get battle hero in lost match)

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Lol most players are playing US because of their new T20 rifle. You just can’t balance the player number in match unless you implement some ridiculous long queues.

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or remove the ability to choose the faction.

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Glorious Matchmaker should still do something to prevent this.
Creating games with lesser players on other side would be even something.

They really should not talk about their matchmaking “improvements” since that does not exists.
I don’t count their br stuff as one, hell I could beat few br V shitnuggets with low tier equipment easily.

But creating trap games to one or two players face nearly full human teams are ridiculous and shows the company’s handprint and what they can and can’t do with their skills.

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There’s no difference between having bots or casuals in your team.
Unpopular faction is always going to be unpopular faction.
The only solution would be to introduce mixed factions teams. Which would be extreme disgrace.

you are one of the rare players that i have seen to actually have problems with bots even before this update and new MM. this leads me to conclusion that you probably have servers misconfigured for your region (e.g. if you are in NA, but you have any/EU servers in MM).

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impossible if they dont implement one of the solutions here:

  • force join any → wont work cause of desertions till you get faction you want
  • remove faction vs faction MM → very controversial decision that may lead to death of the game (or it may make it even better)
  • introduce PvE matches for stacked faction → bad idea cause of victory/bot farmers
  • introduce very long queue times → will lead to slow death of the game cause of perception that nobody is playing it

you just cant artificially make players appear when you have 100 people in one faction queue vs 50 people in other faction queue. well you can and that is why you have bots in the game…

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Remove Faction vs Faction but implement Historic Format. Historic Format has Preset Squads, but you can hae a custom loadout if you meet historic requirements (in presets checkbox replace Historic Default Squads). Anyone that wants HA … plays historic, the rest play “open play”

Keep trees, but implement combined research points

Could also do straight Axis vs Allies.

No.

That would make enlisted a completely different game.

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you know what oxymoron is?

i can already see all 5 people who would be happy with this… still doesnt fix overpopulation of one side, nor terrible historical equipment balance.

and you would still same problem as faction vs faction. people want to play against other humans, not bots.

It is a game lol. You do not do it for a living.

And why would that be bad exactly?
They would whine like crazy for a week, but magically the queues would end up way better for everyone

don’t care, start timing out/permabanning them (obviously make the XP earned with already maxed out faction transferrable)

it’s not really needed if you just stop letting people be aholes

don’t care, quarantine the stackers, just don’t give them ranking points and nerf xp/silver
(also, its already a thing anyway)

game won’t die. This stacking bullshit will sooner kill it than some people having to play some other faction at peak times. People will piss and moan and then be back in a week anyway
Also, the queues shouldn’t be just “long”. They should be “AS LONG AS IT TAKES” long - overpopulated factions just sit in FIFO queue until opposing underpopulated factions work through it
Just have a clear display for rolling average queue time for each faction, so players know what to expect:
For example, today:
USSR: ~2m Nazis: ~30s Japan: ~3s Allies: heat death of the fucking universe

Stupidly unbalanced games are literally unplayable. And trying to fix that with actual gameplay design would be incredibly moronic, Enlisted is the damn best fps out there when the matches are at least remotely even-ish

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it would just kill the game. imagine being forced to play low BR japan or soviets when you want to play e.g. BR5 germans. if this was something like CS2 where you spend half the time as one team and half the times as other with all weapons available it wouldnt be a problem, but grind makes big difference.

you cant introduce punishments just for faction being overpopulated. any punishment for just playing the game will lead to its death.

said every dead game.

they need to first try to fix game (e.g. map selection mechanism) and provide incentives for people to play any

and when some new weapon comes out that you want to grind and queues end up 20 minutes for that faction? one of the reasons why we have shit faction stacking is cause devs just stupidly do updates where they give only one faction new weapons/vehicles or in case of events provide fixed reward 2-4 days for one faction before the other

you know solutions on how to heavily mitigate MM effects?

  • introduce meaningful bonus for join any (e.g. 50% to xp, which translates to 50% more silver)
  • introduce some kind of map/mode selection or veto
  • introduce weapons for all factions with updates. not like now you get t20 and everyone is playing allies
  • remove fixed rewards for events and have them be purchasable from store

Remember when HnG tried to make the RTS economic worse for the most populated faction worse because the already questionable earning bonus wasnt working?
We really need something like that for Enlisted too.

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Sure beats 1v19 matches to me. Getting shitstomped 5, 10, 15, 20 times in a row because you’re LITERALLY a single sentient being on a team makes people quit and never return. Having to re-roll matches 10 times in a roll is also plain moronic.
I try to “play all” as much as possible anyway. Having fully randomised matchmaker would actually be an improvement for me, since I even advocated for something like that (just keeping 12 campaign loadouts you can set up yourself and randoming people into the battles).
Plus, letting XP overflow between campaigns fixes the “i wanna grind USA but it’s overpopped”

None of this is actually feasible long term. Most of the stackers I’ve seen this weekend probably are fully researched and loaded up on silver anyway. They just want to squad up and feel good about shitstomping utterly uneven matches.
Weapons were introduced for every faction this update. They can’t keep adding top tier crap every update for every factions or we will end up with damn space lasers in two years time.
How are even event awards relevant to any of this? Playing turbo stacked games means you usually can’t get any progress done before the damn match is over.

That’s literally my point btw.
Crappy “bonuses” no one really cares about will not fix things. If dev’s let the “haha 1v10” meta continue, the game will just die.
Some people want to stack.
Basically NO ONE wants to be stuck getting shit stomped. Overwhelming majority of the stackers will bitch and moan, then just go play anyway

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Not really.
The bonus made it worse for other factions because they earned less for the war and later on kept punishing the other side for waiting longer to resupply.
So it doesn’t make sense here as more earnings for lower populated factions would not hurt anyone except you.
Punishing people for playing a faction is stupid.

Some people want to play Germany or Japan because they want to play Japan or Germany.

I do think to do this we need a big content add to flatten the trees (which I’m all for) … some factions just have holes that others don’t. So we would need a big content drop that fills those gaps and then from there keep content even. This goes for TT, but also Event releases, and Premium releases.