You gotta think about what would happen if this post is considered by the devs. If they consider it and do it, then the majority of the playerbase will have another reason to migrate to the allies so the axis would need something to counteract the downtiered 21/28.
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Good but not exactly great. M38A of BR3 gets hindered by excessive recoil despite not shooting that fast, zk-383 is way less accurate than PPSh-41 box.
Tommy of BR3 has amazing reload speed, great dmg + rof and not that bad of a a recoil.
Type 100 (late) smg is a perfect example of a good smg that in my opinion is just superior to PPSh-41 at least when it comes to dps at distances over 20m.
Thatâs for sure they for some reason focused only on giving good smgs in form of premiums (tommy 100) or giving well needed 100 round tommy for the soviets as event squad while completely forgetting to add it for the American TT
Well the Beretta 40 is my favorite SMG. high RoF is not really good, at least it doesnât work for me.
Thompson is not bad after buff, but still has crappy sign. The big problem with the Soviets and Americans is the lack of variety, the game always forces you to use weapons you donât like.
100 round SMGs in TT? then assault rifles should get a buff (and eventually everything will be hellish)
PPSh-41 box and Type 100 smg (late) are definitely the best smgs of BR3. M21/28 recoil is worse than i remember but i still would put it at 3rd place if it goes to BR3. Germany canât really compete against any of those even if zk-383 has low dispersion and average recoil it still canât compete with itâs mediocre dmg and long reload time + bad visual recoil (Beretta is even worse despite shooting slower, huh Gaijin?)
Look at the table above Beretta has overly excessive dispersion and awful visual recoil despite shooting slower than the rest, and it still annoys you with stupid recoil direction to the side. That Thompson is all right but not that great at BR4 as you will get uptiered and destroyed by ARs and LMGs.
Only ones that need a buff are smgs they are vastly inferior to ARs and especially MGs like RD-44 that act like a superior smg and it also has 100 rounds but with perfect two kill capability at up to 100m.
it have lower dispersion than thopsons.
They have a movement penalty.
Yeah but lower dmg per hit and rof at the same time with bad visual recoil. It should get a buff (just like mp40 and beretta m38/42) slower firing smgs shouldnât have random stats that ruin their accuracy. Itâs either pick ZK-383 or Mp-41(r) of suffer. Pretty bad for variety at BR3. And MP35/l is even worse why is that crap at BR3 when two of them are at BR2? Itâs stats are just horrible.
Such movement penalty is like nothing itâs not -50% itâs probably closer to -20%. You have no ADS movement penalty so you can dance with enemies and still murder anyone that you see on your screen up to 100m. I would gladly trade a bit of my speed for 100 round mags for my STG44.
Well, theyâve sacrificed more magazine, higher accuracy, and lower recoil for RoF, visual recoil, and damage. Germany has good SMGs to counter America in BR3.
20% is fair, that weapon is much worse at close range than the MG42 100. Less damage and RoF. It is playable after the buff though and is a very unique weapon.
And letâs not forget that the Germans have KT.
Rof matters a lot at close range but dmg per hit does not unless you can deal 15 dmg per hit and MG42 100 just canât, itâs always a two hit kill exactly like RD-44. As long as you will stay at distances over 15m you will do better with RD-44 than MG42 100 as we both know how inaccurate MG42 can be while RD-44 is pretty much AR with itâs almost non existent recoil.
Soviets have Panzefaust 
And after recent Seelow rework tanks got a huge nerf and are no longer useful there as at any point some bushman with faust can jump at you and destroy you in a single rocket shot from the side, map layout doesnât really promotes camping way back as you wonât see many of the enemies you need to get closer and it makes you a bit silver pinata.
Iâm pretty sure Iâll kill the enemy with a single MG 42 bullet at close range most of the time. Iâll try that again.
These arguments are ridiculous, KT can still camp in the gray zone and destroy anything. To examine tanks, you have to compare them with other tanks and arguments like âthere are anti-tanksâ or âthere are aircraftâ are ridiculous.
We canât give soviet the T34 85 in br3 on the pretext that Germany has Panzerfaust in BR3.
Not when you have Vitality. And Body armor makes it even less probable.
Well, thatâs not a Abundant perk, I personally prefer more stamina. I only use it on APC soldiers.
Kiraly makes sense in BR4 but is definitely too powerful for BR3, right now in BR3 you choose between beretta ( medium rate of fire, low recoil, 40 rounder)
Or ZK-383 (high rate of fire, 30 rounder)
Kiraly would combine the two and add a super fast reload speed together with increased damage that ignores armor and has better damage drop at ranges.
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