Thompson .30 cal and Gewehr 98

Hello fellow enlisted enjoyers,

I am currently surprised that no one is talking about the two weapons of the event. I know that both guns were available from a previous event (I was not playing the game at that time), yet I did not see many people discussing their ingame use.

So my question is, with the upcoming (Soon™ ) merge, how would this weapons compare to what is already available, and are they worth using over others ?

As a western allies main, I am more likely to pick up two thompson .30 cal, but are these even worth playing compared to the normandy thompson? I don’t have the 50 round from Tunisia, yet I would like to know if it worth using weapons like M2 carbine and M1928 Thompson.

As for the gewehr, it seems to be one (if not the best) bolt action rifle, which might be relevant in the future merge.

So, what do you think about those two weapons?

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Pick the thompson, until you have at least 4 for equip an assaulter squad is the best f2p thompson of the game, the trench Gewer have a bad sigth and is worse than kar in performance but just pick one for have it in the armory wen you have the thompson

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I really don’t know.

I don’t like full auto smgs with only 20 rnds mags. So I really do not care that much about 30. cal so picked G98.

But G98 could be potentially at very high BR after merge, making it pretty much not as good as it is currently. Plus I really don’t feel its sights, not comfortable for me.

You can get only 2 weapons in this event iirc.

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It’s for sure one of the best f2p Thompson out there.

I would put in the top league alongside Tommy 21/28 (box). (I rate 50-round 1928A1 just behind)

  • That .30 cal hits hard (8.8 damage compared to 8.2).
  • Got higher muzzle velocity (560 compared to 265).
  • Lowest dispersion of them all (0.59 compared to 70-90),
  • Almost half the visual recoil compared to the rest of the family
  • Reloads super quick (2.0 sec, and 1.8 tactical reload).

The question is: Vertical recoil perk or reload speed?
I go for reload speed, making me reload in 1.8 or 1.6 sec. You just have to pull down a lot.
And since it has that high muzzle velocity, it’s actually usable not only in close quarters. Almost like an assault rife. On mid-distance - use bursts. However, the more I play with it, I’ve started to use it semi-auto and fast-tap on mid-long distance. Since you only have 20 bullets and that high RoF, I find it more successful this way to take out a bunch of enemies.

I had two since last year’s event, and will get two more this one.
I enjoy it so much.

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Regarding G98 I agree with Gastano and Adamnpee. The sights are horrible. RoF (52) is too low for my taste. I rarely go under 60.
But if you don’t have any of them I should split my orders. Always nice to collect.

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Thank you for those replies !

I will probably go with the Thompsons then (I rarely play Germany anyway). I was scared that the low ammo count per mag would make the weapon barely usable. In Normandy I have an assault squad with M1928 Thompsons and one with the 50 round Lanchesters. I might try to squeeze the 30 cal Thompson in a third squad !

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well, the thompson will be essentially an end tier ( nor below IV ) weapon.

which it’s good, as the higher damage makes up for the low magazine compared to other variants.

but… in the end, it’s still a low magazine weapon. which for spammers meta isn’t really enough.
but preferences. ( if you burst / tap fire in stead of going full auto )

even though, i personally use it in those squads who can only accomodate 1/2 assaulters. and i used it in the pacific as there it shined for me in anti tank / infantry / mortar squads.

the gewehr on the other hand, will probably be a tier III / IV weapons.
and it’s really great. a bit slow between each shots, but i don’t have it with cycle bolt perk, so that could be why.

and i personally use it on guys with large grenade pouches
( 1 smoke, 1 explosive, and 1 frag ) / ( 2 frags, 1 smoke )

as, even if you do not have backpack pouches for ammo, it’s still great with 25/25 ammo.

you’ll barely need more anyway as you might die in the process or find an ammo box placed by bots.

although, might work for troopers with 2 weapons as you can use this rifle and perhaps an fg or gewehr semi auto rifles for close quarter.

so, great weapons that will be in mid to late tiers most likely :slight_smile:

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Not really, it’s more about subjective preferences than anything. It is still good weapon.

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The .30 is a viable weapon. I have a squad of 4 in the pacific and it served me well. The bots use it well too. Unlike most Thompsons it actually has some accuracy and a usable sight so you can do more than just spray and pray. If you tap or switch to semi you can hit targets from a reasonable distance and it can still rock and roll at close quarters. Just mind the ammo count.

Just grabbed the Warmod today and it seems OK. The sight is pretty bad but not the worst. Seems good for endurance. 50 rounds starting ammo is nice and not having to reload often is good. You can keep it topped up when you get a moment so you don’t need to wait 8.5 seconds. It’s more than just a novelty, but it is still a bolt action rifle. I’ll probably put the pair in my boltie sniper squad.

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Yeah, unlike switching to “just another” smg you will need to adapt quite a lot with this weapon. You have to be wiser than normal, if you know what I mean, and it will reward you accordingly.

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I already owned 3 Tommys and 1 Gewehr from the previous event, just got 1 more Gewehr, and planning to get 1 more Tommy.

The Gewehr, IMO, shines in Tunisia. The long range nature of most maps, together with the (current) lack of full auto rifles for general infantry, allow all BAs to stay relevant even in endgame; the Gewehr is basically a OHK machine that you don’t need to reload, and if you do you’re probably already on a 15+ kills spree. The sights aren’t as bad as they say.

And the Tommy .30 is just excellent. It’s basically a late game M2 carabine in disguise, with smaller mag but way better sights. Once you learn to burst fire with it, you can reliably kill 3-4 dudes per mag even at rifle ranges. It’s a surprisingly good all-rounder.

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But they also gave you four in the previous activity.And in my opinion, Thompson. 30’ s sight makes people feel comfortable.(The sight of the American submachine gun is too blocking the line of sight.)

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Best not drum mag Thompson, just use it as a carbine instead like a SMG…

Don’t be trigger happy with it

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In my humble opinion…

Both are great. It’s a really difficult choice for me.

I already had 1 tommy, and 3 rifles from last time, simply because I really like rifles.

This event, I’ll get 1 oh each to have 2 tommy and 4 rifles total.

Questions of preferences and play style.

Are those saying the .30 is one of, if not the, best tommy gun right? Yes they are. It’s a fantastic smg, only downside is there’s just 20 rounds per magazine. I recommend it if you like allies a lot.

The rifle is ALSO great thought. It’s iron sight need a bit getting used to, but it’s a beast of a rifle that hits like a truck. For early battle rating, there’s not much better than that (rifles).

You just have to remember one important thing: tommy WILL be for end battle rating only, and the rifle will probably be starter to mid BR once the war thunder conversion is released. Something to consider.

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Thompsons are trash/ too high for their performance apart from the M21 and the drum (and that only because it has a drum).

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I do enjoy the Gewehr 98 warmod:
It’s the most accurate unscoped boltie. (0.006 dispersion)
25 rounds + 75 in reserve with ammo pouches (ammo for days)
27.3 damage, so it will instakill no downed state vitality users.
Although it does need the Bolt-Action RoF perk, since it’s a bit slow, i wouldn’t recommend using all rounds to reload, it takes 3.7s to reload one stripper clip, so I reload when I don’t see enemies. Sights can be a factor too, personally I’m not bothered by them.

As for the .30 cal thompson, I use M2 Carbines instead, but it’s a nice weapon as long as you learn to not instantly fire all of the magazine in just one enemy but it reloads super quickly to compensate.
I got 2 of each last event, so I’ll pick one of each this time.

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Not having to reload is actually pretty nice - yet it cycles very very slowly and the sights are not good.

The only use for this weapon in my mind is when you don’t wanna bring an ammo pouch but something different.

But seriously tho, its far from the best bolt action.

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I often find myself burning 25-50 rounds with Mannlicher pretty quickly, and often.

Never fires even close to that many rounds with G98 if it’s not a typical bot-farming game.

25 bullets mannlicher/kar98k (including reload) > G98 Wartime mode 25 round.

Imo

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Now I already knew it was accurate, but I didn’t know at such an extent!

Missing a shot with this will always be the shooter’s fault, never the rifle.

(And true, real allies assaulters use the good old m2 gold order carbine :stuck_out_tongue:)

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M93 or the one also found in Normandy? The “lil” mannlicher is really good at mid range, fires so fast. G98 really shine at long to very long range (hi power, unbeatable accuracy). I wouldn’t recommend it in cqc thought, true.

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Yeah, was thinking of M1895!
But agree, sights are pretty tricky on long distance, where G98 shines.To be fair Kar98k is the perfect rifle somewhere between those two. Best sights and works good in close range.

Check out this amazing sheet by Euthy.

I’ve spent a lot of hours on this sheet

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