Pz3j same
Okay, let’s do the protection analysis thing on the T-50. Not gonna be absolutely accurate, since in this game it has 5mm more armor on the front.
PzIIC ain’t making it with API-T from 100 meters, all the plates are too thick except turret back
PzIIIB and E can’t pen the plates from the front at 100m, because of the angles, but can pen the cupola and turret cheeks near the ring, to great effect
PzIVE Can’t pen the hull at 100 with just AP, but it can pen the turret front, in line with the gun, basically from side to side.
And the PzIIIJ, with it’s better 50mm L/42 cannon, should be able to pen the t-50 from the front at 100 meters easily, only really getting iffy between 200-300 meters. If it’s not doing that, we’ve got a problem with the T50 that can be adjusted.
Not sure about that in Enlisted. Haven’t encountered T-50 with J yet. With Pz IV E it’s easy to kill whole crew in the turret when you pen it and then only driver remains.
That’s because PzIVE has the 75mm cannon, and post-pen damage is modelled well.
In WT, the IIIJ shouldn’t’ have an issue at the distances we usually worry about in Enlisted, but the t50 has less armor on the front in WT, and both versions have more than they maybe should.
I think there’s T-50 in practice room so take Pz III J aim there and see if you get green crosshair.
I would, but I don’t play axis.
Well since I play both when I get time I’ll do it and will let you know. However I doubt it can pen it there.
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I doubt it too, since the armor there on the T50 is 5mm thicker than it is in WT, and 7mm thicker than history.
Only in Berlin is it available to everyone. It’s rather strange that it works differently in Normandy, but I think it’s a logical balancing measure
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Thanks all guys you are all wright but you did not get my point. Your all good players and you play the game. The forum post mention balance for example Gewehr 43 is a gun based on Svd - 40 as the Panther tank was based on the T - 34. Balance means when 2 opponents fight in a war the one learning from the other. i do not like Germans or Soviets i play with a both of them. I just want to play a game that i want to have fun. i do not want to play and historically analyze everything i was not there and i was not like to be there because real war is hell. they put in this game top tear on the last tank two opponents the one is pz3j vs the T-50 and is fair to me equal in any aspect. Any way the post is for the developers mostly.
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T-50 owns you if you go against it from the front . And the yak 1 is so good and nimble that the bf 109 f1 do not have a chance. Anyway i will play the Russians from now on i get it.
wait, is anyone actually using fighters?
whenever i see a plane its always a bomber/attacker
OMG, I saved this meme. Too good, too real 
WT and Enlisted T-50 have different armor stats.
Tbh, I don’t even know in what Germans are better than Soviets in Moscow campaign.
- They have the best tank in campaign - T-50.
- They have analogue of FG 42 as common AVS-36 for any soldier and also sniper version of it. As FG-42 complainers like to say - all soviet troops have little LMGs while germans get semi-auto ZH-29, lol.
- They have the best SMG. Germans don’t have even something close to be comparable. Only Mkb. 42(H) that wins only by it’s universality not it’s strong sides. Not to say that level 2 soviet’s SMG is better than top level german’s SMG. It’s s kekw.
- They have best AT rifle that works as sniper rifle that kills anyone in 1 shot and can also hit tanks.
- DP-27 is still a worse LMG than MG but it’s still comparable. It’s not that bad and it’s much easier to control your ammo consumption after addition of bullshit ammo spread.
- They have best airplanes after bomb’s nerf. Now more bombs is better because of bigger area explosion instead of german’s one big bomb.
Alll theese topics about imbalanced Germans and rest look idiotic and counterproductive for the future of a game.
Yeah, I know. I even said so in the second sentence of the post you’re replying to?
Uh, AVS 36 isn’t remotely comparable to the FG42. Full auto is uncontrollable, reduced magazine capacity and total ammo load, and if it’s a rifle posing as a light machine gun, at least it’s not a light machine gun posing as a rifle.
I can’t even argue with this. The German SMGs aren’t bad really, but compared to the soviet bullet hoses they don’t really compete well.
I mean, honestly, this and the SMG issue are quirks of history. The PTRS/PTRD are and were better AT rifles than the PxBs because 14.5x114mm is flat better at killing armor than 7.92×94mm Patronen, and I don’t mind telling you that they’re not laser accurate against armor. I’ve noticed that with the PTRS, I have an easy time hitting soldiers from distance, but hitting a tank at all from 100m (let alone where I meant to hit it) isn’t at all gauranteed. It does shred infantry, though.
I’d say they’re comparable. IRL the DP27 is inferior to the MG34, in Moscow campaign I agree they’re similar enough.
I’d argue they had the best planes before the nerf too. YMMV, but every Soviet plane in Moscow feels nimble, except the bigger bombers. IL2 in moscow feels easier to fly than the P47 in Normandy, it’s a stalinium UFO.
If someone brings up a potential balance issue with potential solutions, it’s worth discussing, even if it’s just to point out that no significant imbalance exists. Moscow might be balanced, Berlin might be more so, but Normandy is a mess right now and so is Tunisia. Besides, this topic was about how the T-50 is OP, it wasn’t a generic “nerf germany” tear-jerker.
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You were saying?
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