Been meaning to make this since High Caliber dropped but haven’t gotten around to it
So the new Tank Destroyers in Normandy are a bit odd. Not the vehicles themselves just how they got implemented.
I really like that DF added these vehicles to Normandy, I’ve been asking in particular for a Jagdpanzer IV in Normandy for a very long time. Now I always thought it would come as a premium but to my surprise it did not, which is good! However not giving the new TDs their own sqaud seem really redundant. Why would anyone who doesn’t have a personal bias for these vehicles pick them over the tanks already available to the Lvl 3 Squads.
The Panzer IV/70 has to contest with the Panther and the Tiger. Unfortunately it has no real benefit over these vehicles other than it’s tough armor and low profile but that sacrifices versatility (lacking a turret), main gun ammo, mg ammo, visibility…
The M18 is in a very similar boat, there almost no benefit to choosing that vehicle over the M4A1(76) other than the rare occasional time when the mobility can be used properly. However for the extra mobility the Hellcat loses armor, ammo for the 76mm, and has no coax all together, plus is an open top vehicle.
Overall what I’m getting at is that I can absolutely see most players trying the New TDs and then realizing that they’re not worth using compared to the other vehicles available. Anyone who knows me knows that I love the Jagdpanzer IV series they’re my favorite vehicles in general, so I will use the Panzer IV/70. I’m sure a select few allied players with do the same with the M18 given that it is a fan favorite vehicle aswell.
The solution I really think these Tank Destroyers need their own squads to make them really relevant to majority of the playerbase. There were dozens of units that could fill this role.
The 116th Panzer division, Panzerjager-Abteilung 228 had 21 Jagdpanzer IVs combat ready in early July of 44 during the Battle for Normandy
There you go DF there’s an axis sqaud for ya
The whole problem with TDs in Enlisted is that they use the same gun as tanks unlocked earlier (except for few exceptions). After all in my opinion TDs are not worth it in enlisted as their sometimes better armor is not worth it in exchange for the turret. So JagdPanzer IV/70 is not worth it in comparison with Panther or Tiger.
I see M18 as somewhat usefull as you get next version of 76mm M1 cannon and good mobility for exchange of weaker armor and opened turret in comparison with both M4(76) Sherman and M1 Wolverine. It’s definitly not an upgrade but new option of playstyle.
Aye yes, this is my point. The Panzer IV/70 being a TD should never have to compete with the place of the Tiger or Panther because it’s a completely different type of vehicle
It sucks the new Jagdpanther premium has effectively made the Panzer IV/70(V) premium redundant. The Jagdpanther is a more powerful vehicle and is for some strange reason cheaper than the Jagdpanzer
also to add on the thread, me and warpigu did test the jagdpanther on customs and 76 premium tank can pen even on red marker , even 1 hitkill it, and tbh only is2 is the real danger to it.
but even then, its a powerfull tonka. even tho we know the weakpoints now and will be “easy” to destroy when facing one
Don’t get me wrong I love the Panzer IV/70 and I still run mine on Berlin too. like I said earlier the Jagdpanzer IVs are my favorite vehicles ever (hence my profile photo) but the Panzer IV/70 is the inferior vehicle when standing next to the Jagdpanther and the fact that the Panzer IV/70 actually costs more than the Jagdpanther is ridiculous
