The best Defenders! (Updated 22.11)

This happens when you get additional mags but dont fully empty them before reloading.
The box checks for the total amount of mags you have on you (even partial) and not the actual ammo for capasity.
In this case just spray a bit into the air until you are back at normal amounts of (even partial) magazins for your weapon and then resupply.

doesnt always work, however just collect as many as you want and be loaded to the hilt

So, just got connected to hardmode match with only 3 players. :clown_face: I guess this event really is designed for premade stacks only, considering what we’re celebrating here.

i see your 3 and raise you 2

now had we deserted we would’ve had a 5 minute cool down

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thats one of the big factor why a penalty system will not work cuz u are punish for the wrong doing of others

in this case its the wrong doing of the game

I guess a better option would be to drop the half empty mags and get fully loaded ones always.
Not environmentally friendly, but when you fight for your life…

Well, probably nobody prevents us from forming a discord channel of friendly modders and mod-friendly gamers, and realize that people like @regismauro or @Shiivex are still waaay better than us working together. :slight_smile:

(I guess they play/played as much in a single week as I do in a month or a season…)

way to go just to miss the whole point.

congratulation.

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At least now the 4 stacks are playing the event and not ruining the main mode.

That’s why I always wanted some seperate competitive mode with more restrictions to vehicles.

(Because exactly this type of people would go tryhard this mode, finally stop complaining about so-called vehicle spam. Since they don’t want to bother with vehicles because they themselves only keep cycling 3 assaulter squads perpetually)

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You started like “literally no one cares about mods” and I suggested we can try to establish a playerbase for mods and modders. I guess that wasn’t far from one of the points.

Regarding the sentence I quoted, that really was not your main message, yet a part we can help with. I surely can’t make the devs spend their time on improving the modding, or at least to add some filters even without mods to the base custom games.

Dealing with “speed runners” in the Halloween Event

Recognizing “speed runners” on a leaderboard for the Halloween event has created the following side effects:

  1. You’re at the radio objective sending the 3 required messages. A round has just finished and you need to reload your weapon and get more medical bandages. You’re obviously not ready for the next round. Oh well, too bad for you! Your speed runner teammate doesn’t care and starts the next radio message before the rest of his team is ready to go. End result: Sometimes, the whole team gets killed off, nobody has any syringes, and you lose the game (and wasted your time).

  2. A round has ended and you need to reload your weapon and get more medical bandages. Oh well, too bad for you! While you’re reloading, your speed runner teammates are half way to the next objective, you get overrun by a horde, and go down to the ground. You ask for help, and it falls on deaf ears. They won’t come back for you because they don’t have the time. They’re going to become famous by getting their name on a leaderboard.

  3. You’re trying to level up the battle pass for the event, thus the best way to do this is to collect as many tokens from the boxes on the maps. Once again, oh well, too bad for you! Your speed runner teammates have other plans: it’s much more important to set a new land speed record. So what happens? You get left behind to fend for yourself once again!

  4. You’re nearing the APC, it’s in sight, then suddenly a horde attacks your team—assuming you’re all together or at least somewhat close to one another. You’re forced to stop and fight the horde. However, your speed runner teammates think it’s much better to just run to the APC and get in as quickly as possible. I can’t believe I have to say this yet once again: Oh well, too bad for you! Now that your genius speed running teammate has prematurely jumped into the APC, he not only started the 30 second timer leaving little time for the rest of the team to make their way to the APC… he also set off the final horde—which is much bigger than previous hordes. Now you’re in a situation with little to no ammunition, possibly low on med packs, and blocked from getting on the APC. End result: The APC leaves without you and any other abandoned teammates. YAY, your speed runner teammates just won the game for you; unfortunately, the entire team loses all the tokens that were being carried by the teammates left behind. Summation of this experience: Oh well, too bad for you!

I’m tired of dealing with this nonsense, so when I spot a speed runner early on I politely ask them to “slow down.” If they ignore my request, I simply leave the game. Oh well, too bad for you!

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Yep - did this (leaving the game) for the first time yesterday - sick of it

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BTW, these aren’t necessarily the best defenders: They may only be the fastest people to end a game.

They may also be the least likely people to help a teammate when they’re down, or need to be healed. If so, they may also be the most likely to NOT place a med box to help their teammates.

In addition, they may also be the least likely to place an ammo crate to help everyone on the team—since it also takes extra time to do so—thereby stealing valuable seconds off from their extremely important speed run.

And how many tokens did they collect during their speed run; better question, how many teammates did they assist so they could also collect tokens? Probably none.

The problem with the current leaderboard is that it only promotes speed runs and not teamwork; in fact, it forces players to abandon teamwork altogether—unless they’re all on comms together and all agree to do a speed run.

There are better ways to encourage both competition AND teamwork so people don’t get left behind, and all players can level up their Event Battle Pass. I made a number of suggestions for new event leaderboards on the forum with the title, “Leaderboard suggestions for Halloween Event.” These suggestions allow people to compete to get their names on multiple leaderboards, while at the same time encouraging teamwork—which is necessary to experience a successful run in the current event. It’s a logical solution to the problems being created by the current leaderboard.

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how do you think that those times are even possible? also notice that same players are listed multiple times on leaderboard. speedrun for leaderboard on random hard is impossible to do without premade team.

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It doesn’t matter if it’s impossible to achieve as a random player; people are still trying to do it and causing negative problems for the other players on their team—which is why I’ve suggested creating alternative leaderboards that promote both competition AND teamwork. You can see that post if you search in the forum for the following title: “Leaderboard suggestions for Halloween Event.”

The devs are unlikely to make any changes to the current event; however, these concepts could be applied to the next event.

bruh, if inteads of complaining whiout a reason and writing a essay , ur spend that time watching the speedrun replays u would see how out of touch ur complaints are like are you considered that it could be that youre the problem and not others? also yes i saw ur post about others things that could be included in the leaderboard and basically every one of them can be easily exploited showing a lack of knowledged about the game

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No speedrunner on the leaderboard is trying to speedrun with random people. As far as I know, there has only ever been one instance of 3 speedrunners making a record with a random. Why? Because the random was competent enough to realise what we were doing and knew how the event worked. Stop blaming speedrunners for your lack of skill, if you actually tried to do anything other than immediately give up upon seeing a ‘speedrunner’ and stopped complaining, you wouldn’t go down nearly as much.

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It amazes me how ignorant this take is. Speedruns require more teamwork than random matches. Oh I’m being chased by a giant? Cool my teammates will take over while I reload. I need ammo? I will tell my teammates I’m reloading while my teammates cover and many other examples. Just because YOU didn’t see ‘teamwork’ in a match or two, doesn’t mean speedruns promote no teamwork

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