Tank destroyers, Can they be a unique squad type in berlin campaign?

after all berlin is one of the most balanced campaign when it comes to tanks.

mainly because both sides are using late war equipment.

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I know, but hear me out.

We had endless crying about the toughness of Jumbo, we’ve had endless complaints about the toughness of Panther and difficulty killing it with the tools available.

Imagine the tears if Moscow Soviets get the KV-1. It’s not invulnerable, but unless you know where the weak spots are and have good AP, the weaknesses are gonna be hard to learn. What’re the new german players gonna say when that campaign opens to past-gen consoles, when they discover they’re being asked to fight KV-1 with PzII and Dynamite?

On Berlin it wouldn’t be as bad, but still bad. Balancing tanks against tanks is a thing the devs have experience with, but Gaijin’s track record on tank balance is
questionable at best. Balancing a heavy tank against infantry is a whole other ball game, and they rightly should slaughter soldiers, but there has to be an infantry answer to that, and I don’t see one that makes sense.

it’s actually different.

as stated above, you use late war vehicles that are ““similar”” ( to an averange ).

it’s not like the jumbo where it’s been fought by a puma, PZ III N and PZ IVS.

in berlin, 1 shot will most likely kill your opponent if well aimed. and there are not many differences withing the vehicles in the campaign.

like, no matter which vehicle you are using, you just have to aim for the turett. not a pixel of a mg port.

and guns are pretty much on a similar level.

again, you can’t really compare it as pz II, PZ III and T38s wouldn’t do much against it.

perhaps kv1s could be introduced in stalingrad campaign ( if i’ll ever exist ).

good joke.

honestly.

it’s not really about tracking records ( which they still do )

nah, it’s not that bad. just pull a cooldown or a heat system like any tank and there you go.

you even have panzerfausts.

they should go through.

We mostly agree in berlin, I think translation is getting in the way.

But, I can and I did. You’re right, those tanks will all struggle against KV-1, same way M5A1, M8, and M4 struggle against panther, and we’ve all seen the kind of complaining that generates. If they add it, the KV-1 will be fighting those tanks, it’s a certainty, and it would cause problems.

This is probably fine.

Long reload times will go a long way to making it less a problem, but it won’t matter much if they’re sitting in the grey zone behind stronger armor. It’s not common in berlin, so I don’t see it as a large problem, but a potential one.

I play soviets. I don’t want to have to fight Tiger II with panzerfausts, and I don’t want Axis to have to fight IS2 with them. We might have a difference of opinion here. I don’t think heavy tanks should be added to this game because they cause balance problems that only get worse when they try to correct them, and I can make arguments to support my opinion, but in the end it’s an opinion. We don’t have to agree.

which to be honest


the time traveling T50 is kinda the same thing over and over with the other campaigns


yeah, there are a few, but guns are usually good that can pen a cross the map so, yeah :slight_smile:

i mean, we past that time long ago.

doesn’t really matter what we think or not.
it does not meet with the " devs " visions ( as i read multiple times ).

but for me as long it can be killed frontally from the first tank to the last, it’s a win win " situation ".

( not sniping a pixel, or being unable to deal with a panther compleately :upside_down_face: but that’s for another time. )

either way, have a good one.

( perhaps i should stop to derail topic )

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is-2 had double reload speed as tiger. but , felt like paper against KT.

atleast on alpha, atleast with my experience with it. ofc , could come with some aspects changed.

but hey


was fun as hell

is2 :

but anyway. this is more so there is an option to have the tank destroyers alongside the normal tanks with a dedicated squad.

buts its a hard thing to ask since free 2 play players cant have the choise to do so.

yeah. i edited the post befor , was my bad :stuck_out_tongue:

ah yes


“”“good”"" 'ol HEs from tanks of elder versions.
:joy: :upside_down_face:

that couldnt kill no one xD

multiple rage posts about HE were made on cuisine royal discord at that time x)

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Y’all, I feel dumb.
Until watching the videos posted here, I didn’t realize tank guns clip through solid objects, but the shell stops at the object. I’ve been playing tanks as if the barrel was physically modelled and would bump things in it’s way :expressionless:

we learn everyday


I second this, and would like it applied to the M10 (and maybe the M8) as well. Would make it easier to justify using it in Normandy as well.

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yeah!

absolutly like the M10 was introduced!

a squad just for the tank hunters!

Jagdtiger?

i donno about it but the panther version was shown ingame

anyway, all possible Tank hunters could have their unique squad
 just saying


this is funny, not gonna lie :

american tank hunters could carry bazookas incase their TD wasn’t combat capable :wink:

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even bazookas are weak arent they? :Z

idk, don’t have it unlocked i have unlocked all current axis equipment for normandy but there is a video on YT that is a tank hunting training video

I’d drive it. Maybe this is the mobile AT guns they were talking about.