Tanks having defects in production doesn’t mean failure of a tank.
Besides, that 7% figure is from 1 plant (183) in 1 year (1942). In 1943 it was 14%, in 1944 - 29.4%.
Damaged sprocket tooth doesn’t make the tank imoperable.
Better to have 10 T-34s without rubber on roadwheels than have 1 T-34.
Everything essential (cannon, gun sight, armor, etc) was never changed to a weaker specification.
You said every tank improves while cutting costs in half?
What propaganda exactly?
STILL POINT IS PROVEN as the opening post was referring to the moscow t-34
and so you admit that it was not built to standard
and defects also acount for missing items or bad driver view ports
the armor was overheated that caused spalling
what you said
i think you called it /
Yeah, first one was drawn around 1917-1919 should ring some bells. But im not having high expectations.
Please, it was just as bad before the war. Germans just added bombs to equation while liberating poor soviet citizens.
Yet, it doesnt change the ratio does it.
And wheres the documents of formal alliance?
Like this one
No they did starve germans for quite alot longer.
As well as own citizens.
Well Finns goal was to remain independent and neutral in war. Id say they did just fine. Except ofc when they were forced to slay some commies.
Yeah, with 1:7 ratio. Absolutely fantastic tank.
well to be fair the Russian lost so many tanks because of a lack of recovery vehicles so its more of less a 1:5 ratio if we take combat losses truthfully with a add-on of 2 to the ratio to abandoned tanks/ditched
You know tanks produced in invaded countries and evacuated production with 100% quality?
Better overheated armor tank than no tank.
What exactly?
T-34 cut its cost in half while doubling characteristics, other tanks didn’t. Simple as that.
ahh YES " doubling characteristics" involves unheat treated gears that broke in the middle of combat
or HE ammo that explodes in the barrel, or a polished metal for driver sights, or bad gunner wideview
this as follows
Yep and still used until recently last time I checked. History is a tough pill to swallow. But im not having high expectations.
You must have another PhD in evacuating plants size of half your country and setting up production in a different area.
Yet, it doesnt change the fact that all elite German machines and units were destroyed by the ‘bad’ tanks and people.
Totally informal casual chats with Hitler and then totally coincidential attack together
Confirmation of rules adopted by German and Finnish army staffs for transit of German troops through Finland.
Yes yes good revisionism. I’m sure they don’t like to talk about this in schools
And Soviet goal was to get a buffer zone in Karelia, but guess who got even more than that and who sued for peace.
Exactly, with 80-85% of all German forces destroyed in Russia. Including all the perfect Panthers, Tiger Is and Tiger IIs.
Oh, and complete ass kicking to the Finns once again too.
You can even keep doing the cute barking about the 1:7 or 1:70 again and again to look pretty, disrgarding the fact that these numbers have nothing to do with individual T-34 ratios across the whole war.
Not as easy as figuring Finland’s win/loss ratio of 0:2.
However it is obvious it was an excellent tank for its job.
I can’t believe I have to spell out the basics. See Chieftain’s video for dummies, item 5
This is absolute truth. There was no better tank in 1940 and by 1945 it was the best medium tank of the war.
Not really as theres nothing wrong with it. If some random stanislav gets butthurt over it even better.
Its quite irrelevant to subject.
Indeed they were with staggering losses.
A) either the equipment was rather shit.
B) Average ussr soldier was technically in vegetable state.
C) germans were superhumans.
Take a pick stan.
Well actually Ussr bombed Winland first so QQ
And Sweden did the same, yet they aint nazis just because ur butthurt over it.
Clearly not so good I had chance to educate you.
Much like germanys goal was just to grant freedom for obressed soviet citizens ?
What a glorious phyrric victory 
Job of dying untill enemy runs out of ammo. That job it sure did fill well.
Yeah I noticed you like everything Adolf and hate everything Russia.
That’s the key factor in tank production during a war of annihilation. The fact that you don’t understand it is irrelevant.
If not for T-34, they most likely wouldn’t have.
But it’s probably too difficult to grasp for a former Empire subject with inferiority complex.
More like Lossland
In 1941 they attacked together with Adolf.
But still lost and even turned on him.
Oh wow, didn’t expect this level of cluelessness. Sweden wasn’t located on the border of Leningrad.
Guess what if Argentina did that, that wasn’t an existential threat either.
Clearly. I’m glad you can think and repent now.
If you really think Stalin would have stopped the offensive if he really wanted to get all of Finland and occupy it, think again. It’s Stalin.
It just was not worth occupying in full at all, just the strategic points.
But you wouldn’t know it.
Mmm yes perfect German ammo got them all the way to Berlin. Oh wait.
But hey Enemy at the Gates type of Eastern Front analysis suits your character really well.
Now your just jumping to assumptions stanislav…
In subject of was t34 good tank or not it is irrelevant. Even if ussr factories were stationed in moon. It wont change the fact that it had highes casualty rates from all tanks thru the war.
It still doesnt magically become a good tank.
If i recall the winland remains independent. While the ussr with worlds largest army failed to conquer it.
Yeah my enemys enemy is my friend works quite well in this subject.
Subject was transfer of troops thru territory if you already forgot what u wrote.
And what strategic points were at middle of winland about 600km away from leningrad? And for what stalin made the puppet governmet to terijoki ?
Cmon now stanislav try harder.
Im quite sure winland does know. As alternative would have been being part of ussr and living like it was 1955 in 2022.
Well if you actually think a tank at best with ratio 1:4 is good, it explains why worlds largest country has economy of italy.
It did the job with staggering losses but as said quite many times stanislav.
A) it was shit
B) users of it were mentally challenged
C) germans were superhumans.
After this conversation im guessing B.
It’s absolutely obvious, no need to mask it.
Are you for real? You are aware tanks are made in plants? Plants need to be moved? Moving a plant with all workers and equipment is a bit mode difficult than deer herding.
It’s a very good tank because it was a means to victory.
Only because Stalin decided not to conquer it all. Unless you unironically believe he wouldn’t have conquered it if he could?
Remember who contunuously asked for peace.
When my enemy’s enemy is Hitler I’d think twice.
What should USSR care about transfer of troops in countries which don’t border USSR… seriously?
Recources or whatever. Once the land exchange isn’t accepted and war starts, Stalin obviously does whatever he seems fit.
With the track record of 0/2 wars won, n o.
Your ratio debates are completely irrelevant in view of the bigger picture.
When your country is invaded by the largest force in history, you make do with the best that you have.
I know it’s difficult to understand since lossland didn’t even ever have large scale production.
After this conversation I’m guessing you think calling Americans “John” is hurtful to them 
my faith in chieftains being historically accuracy is that of a bias historian
i would say the sherman was the best by the end of the war
No its not, I like many russian things.
Like educating poor soviet russians in internet.
Lets put it this way, its irrelevant do you order shit from america, australia or will you just scoop some out of your outhouse. Its still shit.
If you are referring to manufacturing difficulties USSR had untill molotov / stalin promised ATM to allied leaders if they get lend-lease because they needed 10:1 tanks in order to get something done the result is still same.
It is shit.
Well if you just pour enough shit to bowl at somepoint it will overflow.
Its still shit.
Ofc he would have conquered if he could have just like you said.
If I recall it was the side that wished to remain neutral and outside of the war.
I mean isnt that quite logical ?
Yet allied with hitler in first place.
Ah, so only if you share border with USSR and give permission for germans to bypass your lands you become nazi. LoKiGc
Yea, I suppose its better to remain independent than “win” a war with staggering casualties and still remain in 1960 during 2022.
Numbers dont lie like communists.
USSR actually had largest army during ww2.
If your best is shit, its still shit regardless how best shit it is.
True, and yet worlds largest military failed to conquer it.
wE miGhT haVe fAileD tO coNqUeR tInY naTioN oF 3MillIon CitiZenS, LosT huNdreDs oF thOusaNd soLdiErS & EqUipMeNt AgAinsT fArmErs arMed wIth mOlotOv cOctails aNd RifLes.
BuT BeHoLD We Won The War.
Textbook example of pyrrhic victory.
i would say the sherman was the best by the end of the
dude just stop you are now getting desperate
Dude you are not even relevant in this discussion, why are you replying?
t-34 is a bad tank
Your expert opinion is very important (no)
