It is still bad, and without bipoding nerfed LMGs works bad, and dead LMGs don’t work even when bipoding. Just go try madsen, that the only thing i can say. It is 1 bullet gun now, since second is flying away behind the map to kill enemy in other match
Maybe that makes you a little bit more expierenced than OBT players ?
Check out the BF 5, it has machine guns with 200-250-round ribbons and handy bipods that stick to everything themselves. That’s where you can statically play with a machine gun.
Here the magazine has 50 rounds at the BEST. And after almost 7 seconds of reloading, you’ll be killed in that time if even one shoots. So every few seconds of shooting you have to get up and run around the corner to reload.
Really static gameplay!
When my point is captured, I have to run to repel it and because of squad rotation every third time I will be on machine gunners without SMG. Also yes, the Germans don’t have too interesting SMGs.
I don’t mind some easing of the machine guns, but now with even a little movement the bullets fly in a fan even at 7 meters. There’s nothing more annoying than a live opponent being shot at point-blank range because “scatter you’re out of luck”.
Also, in my thread there is a comparison of sitting and lying down recoil. It’s the same now. Why is this the case? It goes against the logic of life and the logic of any other game. The spread should interfere with shooting on the move at 20+ metres. But when 80% of bullets fail to hit the body at 5-7m because of the spread, it looks stupid.
Similarly with recoil. Recoil even without a bipod should be acceptable, otherwise what’s the point of me lying down?
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It makes me more experienced with a game, but not more skilled in FPS.
For example I could have played enlisted a year longer than you, but if you played FPS games 2 years longer than me, you will be better.
I played it. It was ok but nothing special.
75 in berlin.
And I hope it will change in the future. I made a few sugestions covering this topic.
I concider it a good thing as it encourages you to change your position. Longer ammo belts often caused me to camp a bit too much.
You stay too long in one place → you die.
I didn’t notice tbh. I bipod even when prone.
It sounds stupid.
Well, gaijin and apparently also darkflow seem to be nerfing things in “all in” fashion.
I agree that it’s a bit too much spread but concept itself is good.
I don’t have madsen sadly. But I have heared that even before this change it wasn’t great.
Good, I'm glad you know what I mean. I generally think that such changes make sense, but as I wrote in the post, adjusted by 30-50%. Yes, there is a 75 in berlin, but I don't play berlin, and the change in machine guns applies to all campaigns. I have 50 rounds in normandy. I'm not saying I want 200 in total, but if the developers want to motivate lying around with machine guns, it's worth giving bigger ribbons. And no, you won't get killed, at least not by infantry. Are you easily able to kill a machine gun turret? It's usually hell where you try to hit a man at random, and if I have a 200 tape on my MG, I'll be lying down in addition. So the big ribbons will be very strong. I would be fine with neat adjustments to firing in motion (say, to debuff to dispersion increase gradually as you move, not as now, and does not retain its effect for another 0.5-1 second after the end of the movement, as now). It's strange to me that all the changes are happening in such a radical way. Radiators, machine guns, bombs. Literally everything jumps back and forth on the balance.
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True, it’s mostly tanks and enemies behind me. Sometimes also arty / mortar or sniper.
Just like it should be.
Well, at least we can be sure that nerfing will really nerf.
It’s hard for me to be sure. I generally have no idea how to balance tanks/planes/killing with one shot to 100m weapons in a game. That said, there are handguns in the same game that are awful.
But at the end of the day, I’m not a game designer and it’s not my job. My job is to make a battle pass and have fun)
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It wasn’t playable before change. Now it is even worse.
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LMGs were nerfed and you giving a literal words from the patchnote
“This is just you suck”
Are you mentally ill? And about nerfing also standing shooting accuracy - proofs in the link above. Rudefuck
WHILE MOVING.
The recoil on ground/ bipod is still managable (heck the German MMGs have better recoil than some SMGs).
And idk if the time to ADS is affecting anything in terms of recoil and accuracy but I doubt it.
Good example smart boy. Yeah madson was and still is thrash, too bad there isnt german equlevant for it. Go try mg13/34/42
Watch video in the topic above. It is empty to speak about this if you haven’t seen. I’ve seen, that’s why i say this. Accuracy was nerfed for every LMG in any pose, and nerf was such big, that now there no difference sitting or laying down without bipod
Ralin made good and big job testing all of this stuff, before his tests we were pretty clueless and oriented on our own feeling about mechanics. So check this out
I’m the axis main, genie. I’m played with all the mg’s and nerf were mainly to nerf exactly them. Other guns suffered just because of.
No german equivalent??))))) Troll get rid of this fat, we all know about Breda 30 being literally the same shitness level gun
Your “counter” was that he shot down bots. Im not impressed.
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I made some tests and I can see difference between shooting prone (no bipod) and while standing. I’m not sure about croutching however, it might be in between.
Maybe it’s placebo effect but while prone I manage to hit more often than when standing. In full auto test I missed the target completelly when I was standing.
Shooting prone is still uncontolable as hell when compared to bipoding but it seems better than shooting while standing.
Video in the topic provided with link. With tests. Bot shooting - no the test
Ehm Maybe its just me but the videos/ links you present here are about the Suomi (or are the tests hidden among the Suomi videos?).
If you refer the link to the Russian thread… I wont look through it to find the link/ video and I give a crap about the opinions of the commies here if they refuse to speak English.
“Thanks”
So I take that as you agree to decrease soviet SMG’s accuracy to somewhere between 10-20%? I mean its still beast when it hits something.