So farming humans are much better than farming AI?
Also many human player will mid-quit in these matches. Why not when matchmaking failed, send them AI directly? At least reduced opposite players getting inconvenience.
Also, human player count imbalance is another ancient topic.
For 4-man groups, these are pretty rare, they should tolerate longer matching time caused by their choice to group.
LOL, there is also options in game for enable multiple booster at same time. Which in some conditions, are exploits.
Playing together is of course more fun than playing alone. But there’s lots of reasons MOST players cant do that.
Do you understand that most players in most times arent grouped right?
And do you remember that wipe? Lots of players “passively exploit” the game.
When players grouping for exploiting grouped power to create a unbalanced match, to get easier matches, higher XP, higher ranks, not grouping for fun at first place, this is exploiting.
You clearly don’t play with groups often, or you group with good players.
Or you would see that grouping for xp isn’t the way to go.
Atleast if everyone is high skill level.
We group because we like to play with each other. The issue is that most of said players, are way above average.
How you mix playing the game as its supposed to, than farming bot matches with xp boosters stacked for own gain?
But you do you.
Hopefully I ill keep playing with the good group around, not that I need them to carry me, but they sure make the game more fun to play with match after match. If, that’s gamebreaking for you, I m sorry. Nothing I can do.
Well, majority players wont group OK?
Even right now, Enlisted official discord, none are using voice channel.
Most games which required mic is having a niche audience than those dont.
That’s why Enlisted is also a game dont require mic to play.
You are still representing a small player group that are using mic. That’s the difference.
Well, in WT, game already considered this game breaking.
Also in lots of games, grouping is game breaking.
And that’s why I dont want Enlisted to keep this issue.
Because you ARE the people with a vested interest. You clearly against me representing more player that are just casually wondering around the game, getting crushed by those purposely grouped team.
I am here to post the possible solutions. Who need you to say “I can do nothing about it”.
Also, how do you know I dont play with good players? Do you know my friends? Havent me posted about my screenshots with my friends with me? You just ignore it?
You have to find or have someone inviting you to a discord.
I have joined more discords than I can andle, because people recognize me, or did play with or against me and want to play with me.
If you Atleast are a friendly player. Sooner or latter people will play with you.
If you keep flaming your teamates in daily basis on forum topics, people won’t even want to have you as a teammate.
People want decent teamates around sure, but mainly someone that’s fun or worth to play with. Not someone that will afk for tasks if the team fails to defend first point… Understand?
But it’s also like chasing a woman. You need to make a move.
“hey dude what campaign you playing? Oh Tunisia axis, I can do that, have a slot?”
90%of the time I m playing campaigns I m already more than done, but others still need to grind them. But playing with them, is way more rewarding than any win or xp the game could provide. Tomorow they are playing the campaigns you choose to play with.
Building a circle to play with ain’t hard. If you make an effort to do so.
Trust me, it makes the game more and more fun and will make you enjoy the game more and disregard your team completely. Ence why you won’t see comments from us about our teams or the enemy one.
Tbh most prints or topics I rekon from you are about rants against your team or the lack of it.
And most I remember is you alone.
I can be wrong here. Wasn’t something I felt was important to memorise.
Either way… Something most of us are asking for long long enough is a proper matchmaker system.
Isn’t fun to play against level 1 soldiers.
And it’s actually worth the time when I face an enemy team that was way better than mine.
I learn, I clap their victory and hopefully I will try to do better next time.
But stacking players be a game breaking feauture no. I don’t agree. We do fight staked groups most of the times. And most do recognize us and message us after with “GG” Atleast.
I still tho, recommend everyone to find players to play with, communities to join.
There are streamers like for example @8894782 with discords and communities made around them. Could be the perfect spot to start and engage with others, soon or latter you have Alot of people around you that want to play with you for various reasons.
Hopefully, the main one bn fun.
Aint hard to do, and makes the game way better.
Also,
A little tip hopefully one day you I’ll witness too.
Playing with a full team of top players VS top players stacked on a 10v10(have done it multiple times on the past) it’s the most cancer the game provides per second.
Who ever was part of them, will know.
It’s the only reason having Alot of good players around you that will break the game.
And will break the game on a awfull way. Because no one there needs xp but everyone wants to win by force.
It’s awfull, and I give you that on game breaking. When you know that 20 players there are trully the best ones in-game.
Besides that nah, everyone can queue with friends, the issue is around skill level. But that’s something we ask them Alot of times regarding matchmaking and, we improve everyday isn’t it?
One day, hopefully, you will stop caring about win rates, your team, or enemy team, and actually play the game.
I’m going to throw my own 2 cents in, and also support alot of what @Shiivex has said in his posts here.
First, I have seen games that separate groups from solos in PvP games and the net result can most of the time be horrible. What ends up happening is the players that play together try and find the best of the best to play with them, and thus the imbalance you see now, still exists but is magnified greatly as you have full teams on Comms, and usually one side stacked with the best. Its a steamroll. And that in turn kills that or damages that portion of the game.
Enlisted is a team game. It requires so much happening in unison to win. Doing it with people you trust is the real only way to play late game here.
Every single person I’ve played with was met at random, usually because we exchanged friendly msgs afterwards either congratulating, thanking, or wishing them better luck next time for the good fight.
The best way to play if you find these prepaid teams is to grab some people and go back into the queue.
Or barring that, do a different campaign.
When I play with friends, I’m not farming people, I’m not abusing anything. I am enjoying a game with someone else who also does.
Skill is hard to matchmake against, it can be done but the metrics and work needed to do it right is beyond a lot of companies abilities, sadly.
Eventually they will get there, but even a basic mm that puts enough warm bodies on both sides will help immensely.
I dont need to be on voice to play well with anyone else, honestly.
You eventually learn to spot the ebb and flow of battle and adjust your gameplay accordingly with what is needed at that time.
When I met epic, he and I were both grinding Axis Berlin, and ended up in the same matches together. We played to each others strengths without a word spoken.
Comms only refines the coordination between players, if the skill and knowledge are already existing , the net result will still be the same.
Find some people, say thanks and good fight even in a loss. Making good friends on here I find is actually pretty easy.
Fully agreed.
Also, when you gonna be back to the game? I srsly want to play with you.
Just came back yesterday, actually. Had to shake the rust off a bit , but its all coming back to me again.
So, maybe I’ll see you on the weekend.
Send me a message then ")
Lmao don’t tell me the message I send ya 2 days ago was the reason for you to comeback?
What I am talking here is those purposely grouped for easier unbalanced match. Grouping for OPness.
I welcome those average grouping players. They group for fun, not OP.
I am in GMT+8 timezone, when game is not that active when you guys playing. When the time I play, some specific groups are the typical “grouping for OPness”.
Yeah, in most matches when server active, this can be pretty insignificant. But for REST of time (whole 24h except euro’s evening time), this is very disturbing, and much more frequent due to fewer matches.
Of course it’s very easy. Lots of people are sending friend request to me. But I have lots of things to do in real life. A stable game-friend/group relation is not an option to me. I mostly play with the closest friends of me. And we all of lots of things to do in real life.
Also, dont forget, most of players arent grouping at all!
No no, it was a planned comeback. I needed a break, and the population was all scattered making too many games , not so much fun.
Now I’m.back though, maybe not as in depth as I was previously but ill try and make it on at least twice a week and on one day during the weekend.
So when I’m on ill shoot you a message.
Its nice to see I was missed by a few peeps at least. Friends on here are good to have.
Will you be online in 1 h?
Wanna join me for some matches?
The only problem with this part of your argument is who determines why people are grouping together?
I play with good and better players (than myself). When we group, do you know why without me telling you?
Sure, there might be some people doing it to be asshats, but most people I have talked to on Discord, GameChat, are playing together for fun. No malice involved at all.
If you run into a brick wall, swap campaigns. There are 5, and they can’t be everywhere.
i don’t think you are getting this right.
as he explained, the issue stands for those who group up for the rank " ruining " game for solos.
i think he is a solo just like me. so… it’s not like inviting a solo is gonna change the issue.
as i stated, i don’t particularly mind it. i mean, losing matches is part of the experience for me by now.
but the more i think about it… the more he is not… somewhat wrong about it.
although i do not share his same idea of teams or not allowing them to do so just because of the rank and happens that most of the time, team can wins. i don’t fully agree with his " suggestion " either.
as does not really fix the issue in my eyes.
Yeah I got his point, but I also remember his history by all the topics he made around teamates and afk for tasks etc etc.
Ence why my answers.
some bunch are noisy than others
( no offence of course mr sf )
As a solo player myself and a marshal, atleast let me know who are the players who grouped together as having to deal with them while my team is horrible is just not fun to play. Atleast with a decent or even a good team, the battle can be really glorious even though it can be really sweaty too that makes me use my best firepower I have like triple PPSh squads and tanks.
I do get to see some teammates having similar gear as my squads so I just help them with rally points and ammo boxes. Sometimes even tank and air support in some cases.
There is no reason, none, nada to bash teamates or enemy teams on such casual game.
None.