Actually, no - I’m not pushing for any changes. I was pointing out inconsistencies, then asking people for their thoughts about them. Both I and others have discussed and suggested possible ways these errors could be remedied in the replies, but in the main post I deliberately didn’t propose solutions in order to promote discussion (this is after all not a suggestion post).
I never suggested removing the medic squad, only that the paratrooper weapon should appear in a paratrooper squad - which I don’t think is an unreasonable idea.
On the “toxic” issue: I didn’t use that word because of your opinion. In fact, I’ve openly said I don’t fully understand your opinion - I’ve asked you several times to clarify, but instead of addressing the substance, your replies have been sarcastic and dismissive. That’s why I called the behavior toxic; because in a public forum, dismissiveness, antagonism, and passive-aggressive tone harm open discussion, which is the very definition of being toxic on a forum.
Calling out that behavior isn’t toxicity - it’s trying to protect the space for constructive discussion, as the author of this topic I don’t think it’s unreasonable to manage the discussion for the public good. If you’d like to explain your position more clearly, I’d genuinely welcome that, and I genuinely welcome you (beg you even) to partake in this discussion in a fair and constructive manner.
I have no idea what you’re trying to convince me of. Obviously, you can’t simply apologize for accusing me of being toxic. And instead, you deliberately distort and manipulate.
Whatever.
Btw. Next time. If you think someone is being toxic, just report him.
Well, it still stands that only ever Italian hands used them, so I do still think the squad should be italian!
Of course, the Germans liked their Berettas, I just think that in the current game climate, where Italy is mostly forgotten (how many squads to they have again for free?), I think squad nationality should match the “nationality of the weapon”, it just seems fair to me.
Indeed.
A possible solution would be to make this squad fully customizable, just like the Russian paratroopers, then add a new Italian permium paratrooper that uses the weapon, current owners of the squad both retaining their current squad and gaining the new one for free.
That’s unfortunate… perhaps that should be that then, if you don’t believe I’m acting in good faith I don’t know how to proceed from here…
It does?
Oh I see the confusion here! Allow me to clarify!
I don’t think the weapon should be removed from the medics, and I never argued for that. I just want to see the weapon be used by the correct type of soldier, multiple squads using the same weapon would still satisfy that desire!
Indeed, making premium/event weapons removable and letting you put them on other squads + adding tech tree paratroopers would acomplish the same thing!
I’d welcome hearing other ideas you might have, that’s what the discussion is for!
To be nicer and clearer.
I do? That was never my intention, I’ve been trying to clear up this mess so that we, and the discussion, can move on.
Thanks for the tip.
But I don’t feel the need to involve the staff when we can all be adults and solve problems by ourselves. Besides, I don’t want to cause people problems for things they probably didn’t mean to do, lord knows I’m tonaly deaf at times.
I try to be charitable in these kinds of situations, a lot gets lost over the screen you know? People don’t always intend things to be the way someone else reads them (text is a faulty medium without the human element).
M55 reising comes to mind. It is a paratrooper version of m50 reising yet it is given to medics. Also orita m1941 should be used by romanians, danuvia m43 by hungarians and kp 31 by finns
Oh, I remember that one now, I’ll add it to the list, thank you!
Sadly, whilst all of these are valid, they can’t be addressed until we have these countries as proper subfactions (no uniforms or voicelines to distribute).
And, some of these might actually be “correctly German”. I can’t remember off the top of my head which model, but Germany did buy Finnish SMGs for their own use, so the kp 31 might actually be excusable, and so might the others be for similar reasons.
Re-releasing new squads, with the same weapons but new uniforms, voicelines and perhaps even in different squad types from the original, would solve the last issue though!
True. I think UD/m42 for example could be given to chinese squad and french partisan squad. Both nationalities already exist so they just have to add uniforms
@OggeKing Japanese paratrooper squads are also wrong (Both of them are wrong) , premium squad wears army uniforms while having a unit name that makes it a Navy paratrooper while having an insignia which neither represents navy or army paratrooper, and the event paratrooper have some cosmetic issues .
I have a dedicated topic about it , you probably should add them to your list.
hate to be nitpicky, but turns out, the germans paratroopers did used Berettas m38s after the " fall " of italy and also limited occasions in the battle of tunisia.
which considering the racmke specifically fought both in north africa and italy, wouldn’t be too far fetches unlike the others.
now, it is said that they did, yet haven’t found not many references or pictures.
but it’s worth to consider that germany was very known for taking and using any weapons that they could find. especially if they worked along side or primarily along italy. where ammunitions wouldn’t have been a problem to a point where normally you wouldn’t fit soldiers if you didn’t had ammos for it.
second thing,
it’s always best if you provide their actual squad names from the files.
as that’s how developers refears to them.
34th premium radio → allies_tunisia_prem_radioman_1
this is the only british squad that to this day ( after 10 bug reports ) still has US winter uniforms in the battle of the bulge compared to any other:
Only 24 Flakpanzer I’s were ever made. All 24 of those went to the 614th Flak Abteilung. They made the dicker maxes squad historically accurate so they should do the same with this.
although, as tried to explain, due to the number of production not actually mattering in enlisted, and due to the economy being thriving ( i mean, being able to give the most expensive rifle to anyone is quite the feat ) it wouldn’t have been unlikely to give such AA vehicles to the 1st panzer regiment.
like, based on logic.
and, due to being considered widely an elite unit, you’d exepect to get the best " toys ".