Soviets mains have no loyality

thank goodness this buff came and unfortunately it only works when I shove my barrel in their mouth

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Better use revolvers as weapons stats doesn’t matter. Tiny brain hates numbers, tiny brain only wants to press and how lmb.

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That would be useful if FG42 could have a god damn bayonet but even it’s not included as DF showed GER this :fu:

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I considered this as well, I am not really convinced about this, but I feel like since most fights in this game are under 50 meters, this seems so far to me like a fair trade since AVT has 5 less rounds.

well… Fedorov also one hit kills now, but since it has less damage than FG42, the damage drop at range should be comparable if compared with body armor in mind.

I honestly believe the FG damage increase already fixed quite some things…

I will need to play more games and get a better understanding and feeling of the big picture here to make up my mind, but I am actually pretty happy with game balance at the moment.

Oh, there’s a blind man here who can never see ‘990/minute’.

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I can’t see it but i can feel it.

Thanks for this update the Soviets are most likely gonna get a 20 round magazine in the near future so it’s best to preemptively do something about it but it’s unlikely to happen and we must keep feeding the Soviets weird fetish sucking on barrels.

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talking about this - what are your thought about HA FG 42-1 rate of fire? I am using both FGs right now, and while I think FG42 II has less recoil than FG42-1… still first FG seems very controllable to me. Maybe a bit of a recoil increase could make sense?

I would choose FG-42, the only thing that makes me feel problematic is its thicker sight, which I don’t like a bit.Its horizontal recoil is a bit poor, but it’s not uncontrollable either.

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last match used first FG42 again after a long time, and I am back to using it in semi auto because of its more open sights(which was pointless before the damage buff) but even in full auto I can be almost just as accurate as with second FG. I am quite good with recoil control, so I dont really feel a big difference in effective accuracy for both guns, so I was wondering if worse recoil would make sense. In the end I would like to see both FGs having strengths and weaknesses

The FG-422 is much easier to handle than the FG-42 because you don’t need to adapt to higher levels of recoil, but the firing rate of the 990 also makes the FG-42 quite powerful at close range.
At least now you need to carefully consider which one to choose.

well tbf, fg42 is mainly wasting ammo in close range with its increased rate of fire. it downs with 1 shot and you mostly waste few other shots after that. it is kinda different from ppsh where you need 3 shots to down and you benefit from increased ROF.

ideal ROF for SF at close range would be around 500-600rpm unless you are shooting into group of soldiers.

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i dont know - I always considered 600 rpm to be very slow in the many shooter games I have played so far.
My gut feeling is telling me something like:

600 rpm = slow rate of fire
750 rpm = ideal rate of fire
900 rpm = fast rate of fire

500 is usually too slow to be effective and 1000 is just a waste of ammo. If i look at the many call of duty and battlefield games of the past, mil sims, Tarkov and all those tons of shooter games I have played, I think this logic applies to them all.

Maybe you are right that the rate of fire change isnt a buff, regular FG42 already shoots more than fast enough in the end.

But I guess you are right that if dealing with a “one hit kill gun”, you benefit from slower rate of fire more.

how many of those shooters have gun that downs with 1 hit? in most of them you need to shoot 2 bullets to kill unless HS.

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that is true - I remember that Red Orchestra MKB killed with one shot, which only means its 500 RPM was more than fast enough to shred your enemies.

thats just an exaggeration

im reffering to the fact that soviet playerbase dissapears whenever germany get a minimal buff

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Isn’t the German playerbase community like this?Saying these words is meaningless.That’s why I will definitely oppose this guy. He’s not just roaring now, he’s completely provoking.

short answer: No

long answer: Germany can recieve many nerfs you know and we can live with it unlike urrs but unless FG42 is nerfed to the ground KTH (aka average soviet/Us cheap excuse to say “i have skill issue”) is deleted or somehow the body armor is buffed to a 20% damage reduction german playerbase on BR5 will stay (at least some part of it) other just play germany for “fanatism” or “prefferences” lets say and they will never care if their faction is screwed

wanna see an example of how to kill german playerbase well… see the PZ III N removed from br 2? and nerfed aswell? yup that was the only thing that gave german playerbase a reason to stay on br 2 now it doesnt exists anymore well… why should i stay on a meat grinder when i can move to a better place?

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Really? Let’s look back at the battle of Berlin.

the planes are nice at br2 Germany but other than that br3 looks way better for infantry