I play BR2 because I don’t want to face BR4 or even BR5 in my BR3 equipment (I boycot BR5 btw).
Facing BR3 with my BR2 equipment is always a sweat fest.
This matchmaking is a pure mess.
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I would be interested to watch the replay of that game but can’t right now.
However, it’s always interesting how people with BR2 see enemies with BR3 stuff and most of the time instantly assume they are playing against “full BR3 team”.
Is it possible that your German team also had BR3 players who (could have) brought Pz IV F2/G/J, Ju 87 with big bomb, Panzerfaust, MG 34, G41, ZK or even some event MP 41 r and SdKfz 251 with short gun?
My point is: just because you were BR2 doesn’t mean your team didn’t have more BR3 players than the opponents.
It’s all about competent player and not weapons or vehicles balance, really.
A competent stack with BR1 Mosins will win against randoms who don’t build rallies but have BR5 equipment.
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I did not see any kind of BRIII weapons from my team in the kill feed. I remember we had lots of Pz 2/3/4 (short barrel) and one flame tank.
I get your point but look at the score board - my team fought quite well. There was a lot of teamplay and SPWs/some rallies.
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APC still don’t count as engi points right?
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that is true, its also possible that a BR1 guy had event/BP gun that was BR3, but still that doesnt change the fact that the match making considers 1x BR3 + 9x BR2 vs 9x BR3 + 1x BR2 matches as fair.
BR difference is not that big of a deal when the power difference is low, like between BR1 and BR2 or BR3 and BR4, but there is a significant gap between BR2 and BR3 and also BR4 and BR5.
This problem is futher amplified by Soviets having the overall best BR3 tank, semi-auto rifle and SMG.
Its also an interesting fact to consider that whichever faction does best in BR5 does significantly worse in lower BRs. My theory is that if for example Germany dominates BR5 than Soviet and US mains move to play lower BRs which in turn makes German mains playing on lower BRs switch to higher BRs.
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Right.
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Yeah Soviet BR3 is pretty busted (altough I think that fighting BR3 USA with the japanese might be even worse… those damn sherman are really difficult to kill)
But German BR2 also has a very strong kit :
This is the same thing for everyone at this BR.
Yes the box PPsh should definitly be nerfed I agree, but BR2 germany get really solid smg with the Berretta M1.
Armaguerra is like the best BR2 semi-auto (Soviets don’t even have one) and its pretty strong for its BR if you don’t like bolt-action.
Well I don’t use sniper, and I think that snipers are pretty meh overall (plus if I want to Snipe, then I am gonna use a Bolt-action one anyway for the damage)
Flamethrowers are quite bad since they got super nerfed after the merge. I never found them annoying.
Grb can kill it from the sides, and even from the front but yes KV armor is really good/trolly. However, the german long 50cm AT gun (and the tank version of that gun in the Puma, Panzer III J1/M) can kill it from the front as well, aim for the lower glacis. And, as every german mains said about the Tiger II, just bomb it and it’s gone, the romanian IAR is a BR1 fighter with a 250kg bomb.
All in all BR2 is not particularly supposed to be balanced with BR3 (well those BR3 weapons wouldn’t be BR3 otherwise) but yes the fact that you can have a huge imbalance between higher BR players in a game has always been a problematic issue for the game that I wish had been solved months ago
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As mentioned I have no problem facing some BR3 sweat lords but a whole bunch is just not fair.
If I had options to destroy a KV1 without that much trouble and some decent weapons that can withstand the ROKS2, DP27, SVT and PPShitbox spam it would be okay and a fine challenge, but not like this outgunned show we had yesterday.
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Watched the replay and
Only 3 players on the enemy team had BR3 gear
There were no KV-1s in that match
The match lasted 30 minutes and the Soviet team only had like 160 tickets left on the last point
Maybe if you built rally points or spawned in APCs, your team could’ve gotten to the objectives faster hmmm
Your team also had 4 deserters, you probably could’ve won that game easily if your teammates didn’t desert and if you built rally points
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Only 3? The kill feed was full of BR3 stuff, but that shows that even few russian BR3 guys will imbalance the game. How many from my guys had BR3? I guess NONE.
Thats true, I never said that the KV1 was part of the match I posted. The KV1 actually appeared one or two matches before.
I know that too - still there was no way to get the point back once the enemy was inside (thats what I mean with “rushed”). ROKS-2 in a room? Lovely…
We had APCs and rallies. Sometimes I just CAN’T build rallies because my engineer got wiped, the area is shit or because enemies are around the corner. Two of my four infantry units dont have an engineer.
I try to find the replay. I aimed on the sides and the rear, I placed dynamite under the tank. Only tracks got destroyed (and the transmission before I got wiped the 3rd time). With 75mm HEAT absolutely nothing happened.
I know that there are ways to destroy that box (bombs, Pz3J,…) but my point is that it became a shit show when trying with hand held AT weapons and so on.
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I think the bigger imbalance was that your team had 4 less people than theirs, your team was also mostly console players while theirs was mostly PC players. Even then, the match was pretty close and either side could’ve won
You didn’t even attempt to build a rally point once in that match
lol, how can you complain about losing matches when you play like this?
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… because we had rallies/APCs and - this time - I focused on the objective(s). My APCs should have been enough, I am not the only guy that has to do everything. In most matches I build rallies btw. But thats not the point - the point was the big impalance between BR2 and BR3 (specially USSR).
That was the first sentence I said to my buddy before the match started…
I don’t complain about losing a match, I complain about the bad chances when BR2 equipment fights against BR3.
I often need an anti tank soldier instead of an engineer, thats why sometimes the engineer slot is not used.
You didn’t spawn in any APCs either. This whole post is just you lying about the amount of BR3 players on their team, how quickly they captured points and how you didn’t help your team by building rally points or by spawning any APCs.
Sometimes you just get unlucky and get a bad team or the enemy team has players that actually build rally points unlike you. There’s no reason to make a whiny rant on the forum every time it happens
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from my experience it is never problem of equipment but of shit team. also BR2 equipment didnt stop you from getting almost 200 kills, 4 vehicle kills and 107 defense on cap. your squad mate barely reached half of your effectiveness, not to mention rest of the team which just sucked.
also 30 minute game is good game no matter victory or defeat.
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I didnt spawn in APCs because they maybe got destroyed? Dude I was focusing on the points and WHY should I do all work and btw it is not the point who made what or who won. I complain about the massive unbalanced weapons. Yes I got many kills but what about my team mates? They had even lesser chances.
When the kill feed is full of BR3 stuff it seems that the team is full of those guys. Even when there are lesser BR3 people as expected it clearly shows how big their advantage was.
And yes, they captured it quickly in relation to how much sweat we needed. Once they were inside there was no way to prevent their capture.
You are right, I did quite well but my team mates really got raped. The point is not who won or what ever - my point are the unbalanced circumstamces some people have to face.
Yes it can
I’ve killed it with the Pz III N with little issue. Not to mention bombs
…ok?
Oh geez you’re giving me gun control advocates flashbacks. DP-27 and DPM aren’t the easiest MG’s to use. They got some strong recoil and are best used mounted or in 1-3 round bursts. Similarly to the top loaded MG’s of BR II. It just has a what? 47 round mag? So round double most of the top loaders. Not gonna lie, just shoot the MG Gunner. Problem solved. If he kills your last dude, then respawn and shoot him in the face. It really isn’t that hard
AH-HAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHA
MP 40. If you can’t use the MP 40 then sorry man I don’t know what to say to you. Sucker has next to no recoil and NAILS a man in the head. If you think it’s difficult to use then may I suggest using the Thompson’s in the Allies tree for a while?
There ain’t a single “decent” semi auto in the game
Still not sure why that is, but it’s still funny
Man I play BR II Axis every once in a while, including several matches 2 days ago, and I ain’t got a problem with any of the gear available to you
No they didn’t, look at those filthy deserters on the bottom. Looking at the other team though…your team got farmed. Got farmed real bad. I’d chalk that up to crappy teammates and move on. No use blaming the MM for what’s clearly a terrible team
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Is not bug. Is Stalinium!
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But…the M9 can kill the Tiger II. Who the frick said we can’t kill the Tiger II? The idjit. Probably why we have that disgusting imitation M1 in our tree now
I’ve literally never had this problem. Regardless of a BR difference, I can usually get back on objective given enough time to do so
And what good would that do for capturing objective with a team like that?