Shotguns need a buff/ realism

I made this topic couple day ago and this is basically what it said:

Shotguns in this game don’t work like they do in real life. The only game that gets them right that I know of is insurgency sandstorm. The range is stupidly short in enlisted Enlisted shotguns should work the same as insurgency sandstorm Shotguns are Scary Realistic in this game - YouTube How Far are Shotguns Deadly? BirdShot, Slugs, and 00 Buckshot - YouTube
These are examples of how they should work.
I suggest watching the grand thumb video

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M30 driling needs third barrel working and use actual buckshots instead of birdshots or peanut slugs
oh and winchester needs iron sights :slight_smile:

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Definitely


elephant rifle bullets before it was cool. 9.3x74r

i think that this single bullet alone could kill 2 soldiers at once lmao

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well, looks like tankgewehr ammo :sweat_smile:
to succesfully penetrate 50 mm of thick skin on the front
its better to flank elephant
or use anti elephant mine
(shooting up gearbox wont help in this case)
if it camps in grey zone use stuka 500 kg bomb

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Agree shotgun need a buff

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why not make it possible to blow enemy soldier heads off with a shotgun when at point-blank range? it would add to the violence realism, im not joking about my thought, it would make using a shotgun a bit more fun.

Shotguns should be as powerful as they were in RS2
Rising Storm 2: Vietnam - Hunting Shotgun - YouTube

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I feel Insurgency sandstorm and Rising storm 2 are the only games that actually know the range of shotguns.

ye i have shoot that round sometimes since i own a ww2drilling.

it demolish my elbow everytime, and did destroy a tree with it but, fun . lots lots of fun. there is a nice hole on a concrete wall around my yard that can fit my hand made with that round.

Scares the shit out of me everytime lol , and gets expensive fast lol

but , ingame we dont shot the 3rd barrel… yet.

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shotguns should “reliably” one hit kill at up to 20 meters distance, and they would still be much less useful than all the full auto meta that we are having right now

In real life the Max range that shotguns are reliable lethal is 80-100 meters

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true, but the effective range is less.

There was once a time that shotguns were usable at realistic ranges in this game, but then they got nerfed put of nowhere with the introduction of the Berlin campaign.

It was bad and no one asked for it, nor did anyone wanted such thing. But apparently bots killed more with shotguns than bolt action rifles, so shotguns got nerfed to the point they were worst than the worst bolt action rifles at every range.

Then they got a mild buff, but that buff wasn’t even a quarter of the nerf they got for no reason.

For short barrel shotguns (the ones with the least range) you should expect something of 35-40 meters of effective range, with long barrels the effective range increases quite a lot, and they remain deadly for about 90+ meters with a lesser chance if hitting the target due to spread.

That is with 00 buckshot, which is what was used for military purposes. Of course ammo does changes the results.

For example you can get greater ranges with slugs. Or worst ranges with birdshot.

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