Russian tanks: T-44-85 and / or T-44-100

I’ve already told you, show me the combat use of this machine, the battle. I don’t need to tell you the year of construction, because it’s one thing to create a car that was experimental for the Design Bureau and could be rejected, but another is a car that went into battle. According to this logic, the Panzer VII Löwe tank should appear in the game, because the sketches of the tank were created in 1942, a wooden model of the tank was created, there was a 105 mm cannon. However, in order not to waste materials, the tank was rejected in favor of Mouse. Mouse, Löwe, Series E and T 44/54 Is3 - never fought, these are prototypes. Do you want to play on paper tanks that have not fought against each other? Go to the World of tanks, there’s a real scope for paper. :face_with_monocle:



Thanks, but I don’t need it. I want to preserve the atmosphere of World War II, not fanfiction about Red Alert and Wolfenstein, where post-war cars ride against cars that were not created because the war ended earlier. (because the countries fought on real combat vehicles).

The first battle ready T-44-85 (not experimental) was ready in January 1944 and the first T-44-100 was also ready before end of WW2 - read books, if you haven’t! :kissing_heart:

And still your comment “they are postwar” is wrong and will be wrong no matter what you say (read the description of “postwar”). You also can try to tell us that 1+1 = 8. Doesn’t change the fact that these is wrong by (mathematical) definition. And according to the T-44-85 and T-44-100 that means, that they are not postwar even if they saw no battle. Deal with it :kissing_heart:

Ah yes, Ho-Ri does not exist in the game apparently

And he didn’t even see Combat in those books…

The different between Löwe and T-44-85 and T-44-100 is that the 2 russian tanks were ready before the end of the war (not experimental tanks). On the other hand, the Löwe, which you already “glorious” recognized, was only a wooden model. So see the error in your logic. xD

For a very simple reason : why would they ? The german were getting stomped by the allied on both front…

The soviets were keeping their fancy new toys in the eventuality of a war between the east and the west once germany was defeated

If they had any struggle with the remaining germans, the T-44 and IS-3 would have been used.

But again, its a game in which balance is more important anyway

Also I love how you choose to skip my comment on the german weapons that did not see combat and yet are in the game…

and? still doesn’t change the fact that it’s not postwar :slight_smile:

according to your logic Cönders MG should be removed immediately. Only one prototype was built and it was captured xD

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It was gold order gun, rather than TT.
Then again, i doubt anyone would have given sht even if it was removed.
Numerous guns that were used by GE were suggested as proper counter for ppsh such as KP31 but apparently soviet uniqueness would suffer if others had proper drum smg’s.

and where exactly I ask to add both tanks in techtree? never said any word about it :slight_smile:

wrong. german ractions users cried so much that they had nothing equal long time here in the forum if you haven’t recognized. ^^

Meaningless response from a fanatic who is losing a debate…

Meaningless

They would have known the monstrous Panzerfaust 250 that weighs over 400mm of penetration , its production was about to begin in August

Start saying what is and isn’t true.But I tell you one thing, those weapons are of the Golden or Premium order. But they are not in the TT unlike the T20, Hyde m1944, AS-44 etc.Germany is the only Faction that has real weapons in its TT

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I’m looking forward to it!!
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Use your t34-100 then

Not really, since the issue of ppsh was fairly real in moscow campaign.
Gun such as KP31 in TT was suggested numerous times to be proper counter for it.
But due to soviet QQ bawwbaww uniqueness would have suffered it never was added to TT.

Ironicly, this uniqueness such as Assault rifle etc never was issue to add for soviets.

And this

We understand your concerns about the presence of a post-war machine in the game, but the Su-9 ended up being the best option to match the competition from other nations. We introduced it into the research tree in order to balance the gameplay in high BR battles and to avoid depriving the USSR of a pleasant new addition.

Now please tell me how soviets suffer.

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The same can be said of the AS-44, side etc.

Well seeing how the game is where they are giving away Prototypes or authentic weapons in the battle pass Anger is normal

sure the users cried here - if you haven’t recognized.

yeah, but that nothing what I have to do with. It’s up to DF

Did I say in any words that russians suffer in enlisted? I never did, mate

Ah yes says the dude who never played anything outside germans. I guess you certainly knows a lot about ingame balance.

Ah yes, totaly a tech tree tank thank you for your advice.

By your logic the sky over Moscow and Stalinghrad 1941-1942 should be covered in Me. 163 Komets, since it was first tested in 1941 lol

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Classic Battle of Stalingrad experience

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Well no, I did not notice.
Ive got 3 ? Cönders which I guess is maximum and couldnt care less if they got removed.
3 -/- 3 full assault squads ppsh sounds about equal.

Sure

Dunno, oddly you feel necessity to point finger towards cönders that has absolutely nothing to do with subject, while asking protos / paper items for faction that literally has counter to everything.

This game was NEVER balanced, let it be like this now is because of the whiners of the Allies and Soviets who complained about German weapons.This game was NEVER going to be Balanced and I remember the Fantastic phrase that the main allies and Soviets use “Each faction has its strengths and weaknesses”

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I got 4, and I would be mad if they get removed.