not sure what is combined recoil
kiraly has 16&6
ppsh has 8&4
yes
Well you can go and compare the actual stats in above link.
Absolutely not true, before Stalingrad all weapons had less recoil in the Moscow, Berlin, Tunisia, and Normandy campaigns.
Just me but if someone is wrong 95% of the time in his post, I wouldnt like/ support it because of 5%.
Well.
Supporting a dude that is cleary wrong and then come with “Be prepared for the German Mains” because they bother to say you guys are wrong in all regards and dare to read is kinda weird.
After all, if you wanna argue about weapo stats, you should well name the actual stats.
But thats fine because he is like the second dude in the entire forum that is too dumb to control a PPS(h) ehm showed the Axis bias of the devs.
Combined recoil is how much recoil the gun has per second, to find this, multiply the vertical and horizontal recoil by the rate of fire then divide by 60
PPSh-41:
Damage at 10 meters: 6.6
Damage per second at 10 meters: 6.6 × 1150 ÷ 60 = 126.5
Damage per shot at 100 meters: 3.3
Damage per second at 100 meters: 3.3 × 1150 ÷ 60 = 63.25
Vertical recoil per shot: 8
Vertical recoil per second: 8 × 1150 ÷ 60 = 153.3
Horizontal recoil per shot: 4
Horizontal recoil per second: 4 × 1150 ÷ 60 = 76.6
Total recoil per shot: 12
Total recoil per second: 12 × 1150 ÷ 60 = 230
Kiraly 39M:
Damage at 10 meters: 7.9
Damage per second at 10 meters: 7.9 × 870 ÷ 60 = 114.55
Damage per shot at 100 meters: 4.6
Damage per second at 100 meters: 4.6 × 870 ÷ 60 = 66.7
Vertical recoil per shot: 16
Vertical recoil per second: 16 × 870 ÷ 60 = 232
Horizontal recoil per shot: 6
Horizontal recoil per second: 6 × 870 ÷ 60 = 87
Total recoil per shot: 22
Total recoil per second: 22 × 870 ÷ 60 = 319
This looks like very damning evidence for the Kiraly but please remember that the Kiraly has so much recoil that pulling down on the joystick actually controls the recoil quite well, it’s almost like the RD-44 which has almost no horizontal recoil but so much vertical recoil that pulling down the joystick about 2/5 of the way turns off recoil, unfortunately the PPSh-41 sits in the middle it either needs less recoil or more recoil to make it useable like this, maybe cut the horizontal recoil by 3/4 and increase vertical recoil by 3/4 to make it actually usable.
But honestly I think they should cut the horizontal recoil on the Kiraly too because in my experience it’s insane as well.
Yeah, it seems you are right and damn sure I aint enough educated to argue with science people.
But it seems you missed few quite important things here, I fact checkd from my brother hes a real genious.
You forgot to take in account the year of production and how many were produced.
As the common rule is new is always better than the old one 1939 / 1941.
Now, if you use this simple formula 8+4 and then divide it with 1941 you get 0.0061 as combined yearly recoil.
Now kiraly has 16+6 and divided with 1939 you get 0.011
So its quite clear here which one has better recoil.
Now, its obvious that kiraly has more damage but what you forgot to take in account here is the production numbers.
So theres aproximately 20k kiralys made so we just use this simple formula
7.9x20 000 and we get total damage for kiraly 158 000 quite impressive isnt it ?
Now lets see ppsh
6.6x 6 000 000 and ppsh total damage is 39 600 000
Quite alot more than kiraly dont you think ?
And no offense, I think I trust my brothers calculations more than yours.
My brother almost graduated from 4th grade math class, only reason he got kicked was that I could not make him stop smoking & drinking during classes.
Such potential wasted, dont drink & smoke kids.
What’s that have to do with me needing your supposed permission before liking posts?
Okay great, I quoted the part I agreed with, again.
No, because every time that happens, it drags out into a week-long argument that goes nowhere and I have no patience for that.