Gotta tell you mate, I’d say shivexx is the rally car driver, your stats aren’t much different than mine. Not enough to warrant that metaphor.
A guy runs faster in the park then in the stadium I suppose. And also leaving the game before it ends in defeat nullified stats sometime ago? If not, that’s some nice stacking and tank-sitting alright.
Also you don’t know if I’ve been sending bots to arty to die the all game or not, stats in this game are not - for example - gun specific.
Shame you don’t play Allies either.
indeed man… took me long enough. i did finish all campaigns now. i can easly enjoy the game as is and farm orders 
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funny enough i do own 2 rallye cars in real life, even daily drived one for 2 or 3 years…
i never compeated tho.
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I recon that if you leave the game it doesn’t record it, so, what else we got?
well for the 4 of us who have actually posted data, I can see people do great regardless of side (or only play the apparent inferior one.) with KDs well over 1.8. and consistent average kills per game regardless of team
And interestingly enough (so far) 1 person (kutarinkushi) has more kills (or kills per day/battle if there is a play time difference) with Russians tanks and SMGs than they do with Germans, the two biggest points of popular opinion (and comparing it to yours ISANMAA you outscore it in a german tank on a battle by battle basis., probably because tanking is a preference of yours, but you aren’t struggling). Not showing that overwhelming sentiment of superiority.
Rifles/BR: ISANMAA does the lions share of his 2.8 K/D with rifles/BR, I do the bulk of my 3.2 K/D with rifles/BR. Rally car driver, commute driver. Looks pretty effective and not exactly struggle town against all those automatics. The other 2 prefer “Machine guns” for a slightly lesser K/D but more average kills per game. (favour very heavily russian machine guns over smgs. now that is interesting, cos thats not what you hear about)
Tanks (from whats available) Germans kill more tanks per battle and in total accross the board, counter to popular opinion.
Course the sample size is nothing its not even close to anything definitive. but it hasn’t subscribed to popular opinion (heck its the Russian MGS doing the work)… And its a hell of a lot more than just talk, slinging insults and throwing out “what if” scenarios.
So, if I now post a screenshot of me going over 2kd with only knife as soviet shall we come to conclusion that soviets dont need weapons at all ?
I mean you couldnt be any further lost with your argument. I dont recall at anypoint of this conversation question being that getting kills was the problem. 9 / 10 times you are shooting at bots which 9/10 times cant do shit even if they had nuclear weapons.
Regardless people can kill bots even with inferior equipment that doesnt magically make the equipments balanced.
Hmm, wonder if it could be due to fact that theres no point to spawn tank if theres t-34 around ?
Why would I waste time and effort in to absolute dogshit tank gameplay in which germuts are required to hit tiny weakspot of said t-34 while being one massive weakspot for t-34 ? And hell even this would be “fine” if hit on that tiny weakspot was 100% guaranteed kill, but its not.
I simply can just abuse the game mechanics and kamikaze with plane on that t-34.
Alot easier and takes far less effort than actually going in tank on tank combat with inferior tank.
Which has been pretty much the subject of entire time.
IF I play tank as germut ive got to do alot more effort in order to kill my opponent tank than what my opponent requires to kill me.
IF I take the smg ive got to yet again do alot more effort than my enemy with hes toy.
I’ve said many times: I don’t have issues, but that’s because I’m extraordinary.
You do realize that the stats you see are flawed as if you get a “bad game”, you can just leave before it ends and the stats are not recorded? This data is scewed and shouldn’t be refered in the first place.
But you insist, so tell me, why is Allied winrate higher on Shivexx and Katavlugbh?
Don’t know? Guess?
This isn’t exactly an eSport -game either due, for instance, it lacks balance and mode, ruleset and private servers but it shares FPS like: pieing, cornercutting, client side hitreg so lantency delay advantage, high peakers advantage -
You’ve already stated you have no idea of competitive enviroment balance, or prefire, or ROF, or accuracy - or was it bullet accuracy or weapon accuracy or player accuracy or what-ever.
Also:
It’s BA vs PPSh close quarter combat.
How many kills with BA you have in close quarter combat?
CQB?
What is your KD with PPSh?
What is my KD with BA?
WHAT IS MY KD WITH MP40?
Also just for you, I played a game with knife only until I got PPSh, and went 181 kills. Screenshot inc later.
Knife, PPD, PPSh only.
Now you can’t see it from these numbers, but you clearly see that there’s 181 kills. It doesn’t tell how many I’ve killed with which each, but it shows 181 kills. Undeniably. This data is pure, and couldn’t and shouldn’t be undisputed because it is numbers and thus facts.
Also - I don’t know why the fuck am I bothering with this anymore but - Bulk kills with Bolt Action Rifles might have nothing to do with the leveling up process in this game where you play most of your time with, I don’t know, bolt action rifles? And when you level up you get useless crap like parkinsons Kiraly39m?
I have to say, this is the equivalent of playing chess with pigeons. In the end you’ll just gurgle and shit on the table, and fly off, regardless.
I’ve stated above in this thread, as I’ve requested many times, for you go up there and read. If you do not comprehend even SMG superiority in CQB compared to other guns in a game enviroment with random gun dispersion, suppression, (coded inaccuracy, there is visual recoil element and random bullet deviation per shot element added up which the player is unable to affect into - read: AKA weapon accuracy???), why would you comprehend anything else?
tHiS oNlY sHoWs GeRmUtS sHoUlD nOt Be AbLE tO pICk Up SoViEt GuNS & gERmuT KnifE OP
No this clearly states that if I stab someone 11 times with 10 stabs it’s 110% accuracy.
EDIT: Or If I hit with 1 bullet from 5 bullet clips it’s 20% accuracy, which is GOOOOD. But to get that with 71 bullets it would mean I have to hit 14,2 bullets which is 14,2 times HARDER than hitting 1 bullet!!!
1: Im ordinary (according to you, “bottom of the score board” “commute driver”). A Casual with stats similar to yours “someone who supposedly has official FPS feat”. So that makes what I think and my stats pretty relevant if you are saying ordinary joes have issues.
2: win rate? how about you tell me using their data. Cos looking at the data of the games they DID stay in, I know I wouldn’t be picking smgs or tanks as the major contributors to their success.
And as for the screen shot, nice work. The undeniable part is you got 181 kills, and lost 18 squads in the doing so (roughly 90 men, assumption because the minimum amount of most squads is 5, but most likely filled to 7. So KD roughly 2/1. match it with your German play time and its lower than your average work.
well considering your rifle kills you either dont play cqc or you choose the games where you can actually compete with rifle in cqc aka bots.
Thats the point. Got into a game where your opponents has learned to tie shoelaces ? Just quit.
Got in to game against BA CQC Myrmidon ? Stay and boost my stats even with knife.
Yet that dont magically make tanks balanced nor smg’s.
But fine lets look at this data of yours
Kutarinkushi
Soviet
kd 2.6
avg. kills / game 80.7
6.2 kills / Min
germut
kd 1.8
avg kills / game 63
4.9 kills / min
shiivex sovjet
kd 3
kills / game 83
kills / min 5.5
germut
kd 2.5
avg kills /game 82
5.5 kills / min
Both which have unlocked both sides max seems to do better on sovjets.
And at the end of the day question was about this.
As well as proving rather obvious claim of BA being good at cqc full of bullshit.
These stats Enlisted gives us can be fabricated and are circumstantial.
I don’t leave games because I don’t care from stats. I want to level up my plane so ditching three squads now and then is ok.
It can’t be shown from the page, can it?
I can still thrown down cards of my expertise in fps-games due recorded achievements in a highly competitive enviroment.
You can’t.
Even I commute, if you understand analogy.
Also didn’t you understand bringing knife to a gunfight might have a negative impact on overall K/D?
These numbers tell nothing.
But OF THEY DO, please answer why you, Shivex and Kayalshöawhatever have significantly higher winrate and better stats with Allies?
Because Allies have better Bolt Action Rifles?
You insist that CQB vs CQB in Axis vs Soviet in Moscow is even SMG wise, because Axis has Bolt Action Rifles.
You insist that having low ROF and CLIP-SIZE is beneficial when playing in CQB in LOW TIMETOKILL game with swarms of BOTS around you.
That’s the dumbest thing I’ve read on these forums.
Somewhere along the line you let it go to your head that your a “pro gamer” and that your opinion is fact because you know better without the needing to show how you arrived at that point.
Never mind the fact that you can doctor win rate by leaving or stacking teams, When it IS recorded, its recorded showing what they used to get that result. what did the most work for them? what did they use the most? Is it the superior PPSH? no…is it the superior T50/34? no. They actually favor machine guns.
Thanks for bringing up the rate of fire comment again (My original quote said " There is a point where rate of fire is overkill and situational…") Meaning that once you get to a certain fire rate, more is not always better when side effects start to matter.
So why are they doing most of their work with MGS and doing Far better than they do with the German counterparts that have twice the rate of fire, same damage same mag capacity. ???
The data available isn’t lining up with what you say, it actually looks a lot closer to some of my remarks. You may shrug off that data as not showing the whole picture and you aren’t entirely incorrect about that, but IT IS showing something. What do you offer in its stead to support…other than “Im a pro gamer.”
Heck if me and you did the win rate doctoring that you basically suggest they did (I’m not making that implication), Wed be up there with a Massive win rate And a Higher KD using rifles more than anything else…but we still would have used them
Well you dont really need a progamer career to tell BA in CQC in this kind of game is pretty shit.
Im not a Doctor, but if I go to doctor due to broken finger and result is my finger remains broken but ive got furry tail growing from my ass I can tell something went quite horribly wrong even im not doctor.
They can use dogshit to win the game for all we care
these stats still remain same favoring rather highly soviets.
If you have hard time “controlling” your ammo consumption by bursting its not exactly the weapons fault.
As said millions times, I can kill you with knife but
these stats still dont change.
Well it shows they do better on soviet side.
Quite sure thats exactly the point, your stats are quite heavily flawed.
Let’s simplify.
I got paid to play FPS games because I won extraordinary players in competitive environments which makes my opinions more educated. On top of that I also stated facts on the table (weapon statistics), which you continue to neglect for some what-ever-autistic reason.
I’m waiting? Don’t have an answer? Is 6%, 6,380%, or staggering 11% higher winrates on Allied side coincidence and not gear-rated?
Are SMG’s better in Close Quarter Combat then Bolt Action Rifles or not?
They are.
Does Allies have better SMG’s?
Yes they have.
Doesn’t exist in Moscow. Is T-34 better than all Axis tanks in every range or not? If you start with T-34 and would face an exactly the similar skilled player with a PzJ which one would win?
Is not related to CQB combat, but long range combat. DT and DP excel in those very, very well. Maybe their playstyle isn’t capping the points but farming players while their friends cap points - in the games they won, and stacked?
I am, they’ve both admitted it openly (correct me if I’m wrong). Those stat pages mean very little.
SMG’s in fact. Players need to level up on Axis to get to “good guns” and you get a limited amount of them. SemiAutos (ZH-29 / AVS) are also counted as rifles. Kutarin has only 3000 Allied rifle kills versus 9000 SMG kills vs that whopping 16000 MG kills.
What’s the similarity with Bolt Actions and MG’s? They are not Close Quarter Weapons. How do you boost up K/D? Not going to the cap to get slaughtered by CQW and shooting bots.
Does this analogue make sense to you?
mainly because i played moscow for the most time early open beta game days and soviets just started and finished this/last month .
and i would take a kiraly over a ppsh all days of the week.
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and to answer your question about “leaving games” , we all do.
i leave 90% of conquests on sight
i leave batles i have to capture a point and they place me on a defence.
i leave batles if my personal life gets in the way.
i leave batles if i m not in the mood to deal with lack of team.
i leave 99% of fortress town map in moscow if its a defence because its boring as fuck to play the first point all match long.
at the end of the day. stats arent 100% correct, and i dont pay much atention to them.
and to answer another question no one asked, i rather play on axis side. and i find it superior in my honest opinion.
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Naughty bait. Tsk, tsk.
I don’t, but it’s just me. But good we got it settled so we don’t have to ponder about winrates.
Edit: Well, I do leave occasionally but only if I have to go check my kids or something else comes up. The time to kick is very short.