I don’t understand if the +1 // -1 MM for br 3 is in place for all nations or not ???
For exemple, my br3 German’s army fight from Moscow (br 1/2 or only BR2 ??) to Berlin (against BR4 only).
And it’s OK, I can lose against BR2 Alliés / Soviets and I can deal against BR4 stuff and win.
But for my Japan’s and my US Army (br3 too), sometimes I fight in SF br 5 (I hate this since the méta is full proto Now I can’t use my cool historical br 5 stuff ). Just borring.
Special MM rules for US and Japan ? For Pacific ? Why ? Less Players ? (so you really think it will be more Players if u put br 3 against br 5 ??)
Personally, I’d rather fight bots than get my ass kicked by SF stuff.
And a lot off times, bots PTFO more than real players.
( My Soviets are br 2, so no problem for them. But sometimes I’m puting in Berlin against strong Germans… I know it’s a Bug.
I think I can deal with them against BR4 like in the old campaign system )
When a player deserts, he gets replaced by AI and on BR3-4 matches AI are often equipped with BR5 weapons so it’s possible that they are only AI.
It’s probably worth to check on tanks and aircraft since AI can only use BR3 tanks except for German Panzer IV H which is currently BR4. So if you spot a Tiger II or something than you also got BR5 players. Happened to me more than once that I was the only BR5 dude in a mostly BR3-4 match.
Yes, the bots in BR3-5 lobbies use BR5 weapons, I see a lot of STG 45 squads starting to appear mid match in many BR3 games. Just like bots receive Lewis and drum MG13 in BR1 matches.
Oh right I forgot about that AI now has access to premium squads, they always use the same premium squads though so it’s easy to recognise them.
Normandy Axis: Kiraly43M
Normandy Allies: Colt Monitor
Stalingrad Axis: Soumi kp-31
Stalingrad Allies: Parkerized Ppsh41
These are the ones I remember.
To be honest, there probably isn’t a single quick fix. It’s probably going to take a combination of ideas to improve matchmaking (MM): The devs started the process with the current BR system. I have also suggested two very different game modes—play to win & casual game play—to separate the different styles of play to reduce frustration during game play and to help games flow more readily. Separating stacks of players would help, as well. Finally, an additional still-based matchmaking (SBMM) system could shore up the remaining issues.
That’s a combination of four different systems to resolve a good percentage of the problems we are still experiencing.
Every single game that introduces SBMM has had its player base hate it. I don’t see why Enlisted would be any different from this pattern. The biggest flaw of SBMM is it eliminates the casual match in its entirely. Every. Single. Match. Will be a sweatfest to the end with no reprieve because you are always playing against people of equal or better than you, usually better than you, regardless of circumstances unless you take a whole day of purposefully lowering yourself to get more laid back matches. No one likes SBMM, and no one can successfully implement it
not true. example csgo and valorant. there are probably few others but i am not familiar with most games.
so people should hate enlisted cause of uneven matches?
simply not true. it becomes sweatfest only if you are competitive and want to play against people of your skill level or better. if you play it casually it wont be sweatfest, but you will play level or two from your real capabilities. basically what you want is seal clubbing cause you want to play with your max skill level, but you dont want opponents that can fight back.
Are you really comparing Enlisted with strictly competitive fps games like Valorant and CS???!
As far as I know, the main kind of progression in these games is competitiveness and ranks.
In Enlisted it’s the other way around, the main progression is through the tech tree. The game is designed literally all around that.
As I understand it, the games are fundamentally different. In Valorant and CS, SBMM is literally a necessity, since that’s what the game is primarily about.
If there is going to be any competitiveness in Enlisted, it should be purely on the level of clan games. Just like it is in WT or WoT.
I certainly don’t see a single reason why the average player should be dragged into something like that by implementing SBMM to classic squad game mode.
csgo is not strictly competitive. there is casual MM there and there are also public servers. also when i played cs 1.6 it was all only public servers(so casual only) and if you wanted skill based match you needed to go on irc with your team and try your luck there by saying what skill team you wanted and if you had private server. there were also ladder matches on clanbase and later on esl, but most games were matched through irc.
so CS is perfect example of game that went from casual to SBMM and thrived like never before.
Those had SBMM from release, did they not? This is introducing SBMM in the middle of a game’s lifecycle or like how CoD has introduced it in the middle of their franchise
Name one game with perfectly even matches every time
That’s the issue. Permanently on SBMM ONLY matches you against people of your skill level or better. End of story.
You clearly know nothing about me. I drop down to BR II when I want consistent causal matches where I don’t really need to try. BR III when I want the most Enlisted experience. BR V when I miss my M1919A6 and P-47 and am ready for Shipment 24/7 Sweatfest 24/7. I never advocated for seal clubbing and even agreed with Adamnpee when he said that BR’s don’t reduce sealclubbing as they were being implemented. Like come on man you should be smarter than this
to have fun. you know odd concept that people forgot to do in games…
i guess you are right… i have only been playing CS since ~2001(1.1 version), so idk anything about how it actually was.
most people were hanging on public servers with varied skill levels, LAN parties were organized for fun and i have been on couple of 100+ LAN parties where community gathered and get to know each other(out of those big ones only one LAN had tournament with some symbolic prizes for CS and COD tournaments)
only minority of people actually played competitively and you really had to go through some effort to actually even manage to play competitively. you had to have private server with admin account, then you had to have team of 5 players and after which you needed to either to go on irc channel or you needed to register for ladder on clanbase(later esl).
lots of clans were just group of friends playing the game casually(more on public than in any competitive match). i guess game was all about competitiveness and nothing else…
counter strike 1.6 and source didnt have SBMM. csgo had SBMM from start, but it also had casual MM and public servers.
you dont need game with perfectly even matches every time(but csgo/valorant come to mind). i would be just satisfied with not having matches where half of one team doesnt know that WASD exists and other team is roflstomping them.
there is big gap in your logic. if it only matches you with your skill level or better, then who is matched against those better players? lower skilled players?
well you see this is exactly the issue. you dont want to play against equally skilled players or better, so you go to BR2 to have “casual” experience, but you dont realize that you are spoiling experience of players on BR2 that dont want to play against high skilled player dominating them for most of the match.
like i said it is only sweatfest if you decide it to be. for me it is more fun to win or lose match that was close, rather than have match where i roflstomp(although those can be fun once in a while) or where i get roflstomped.
Yeah every once in a while. My preferred BR is BR III for the sole reason that is the only BR that is even somewhat close to what Enlisted used to be. Well, that and the BAR is one of my favorite firearms of all time. But occasionally a man needs a bit of a less stress filled, high energy sweaty match and a little more where I can sit in my chair and relax as I don’t have to try hard to win
Now I can’t use my cool historical br 5 stuff 
). Just borring.