Proposal: Make the Fedorov Rifle (25)Historically Accurate 

The Fedorov Avtomat (25)is a distinctive weapon, but its three-round burst fire mode severely violates historical authenticity. Furthermore, in burst mode, this weapon actually functions with a 1000+ RPM rate of fire, making it excessively overpowered. The last weapon with a similar rate of fire was the G43 Kurz, which was reverted to its standard full-auto mode and had its maximum theoretical rate of fire reduced. The Fedorov Avtomat (25)clearly needs a similar nerf to the G43 Kurz.

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The Fedorov Avtomat (25)'s three-round burst mode and high rate of fire currently deviate from historical accuracy and may create balance issues in gameplay. Based on the precedent set by the G43 Kurz’s adjustment, we suggest reevaluating its fire mode and RPM to align with realistic performance while maintaining fair competition. A similar approach to balancing this weapon would improve consistency across the game."

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There is zero evidence for a burst fire rifle.

All tested rifles were semi-auto and full-auto only while burst fire guns would be first made by Italians 20 years later.

Isn’t it weird how G43 kurz was changed because of lack of sources confirming the burst fire mode while the Fedorov rifle 1913 obviously never had burst fire mode and devs refuse to correct it even though it was demanded at least 3 times.

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I use the German Breda PG (CR) which from a quick search is accurate having a four shot burst, however, it appears that the actual ROF was 600 rpm as opposed to the 350 they set it to in the game. If that is true, it doesn’t surprise me. I don’t mind it shooting 350, but it would be nice if DF could actually get a gun correct. I guess DF doesn’t realize most of us know how to use google.
Breda PG (CR)

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I certainly wouldn’t mind having my Federovs be full auto instead of fixed to a 3 round burst. But I do disagree calling the 3 round burst overpowered on the Federov.

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it has 15.3 damage so its one hit down or out right one hit kill thus you dont need high fire rate with it, accuracy is much more important so turning it into a full-auto rifle would be a huge buff for it rather than nerf actually.

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I absolutely agree with your opinion. Breda PG (CR) shouldn’t be forgot. All burst fire guns should be adjusted

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Of course i’m for you

Wonderful suggestion, it’s pitful developer ignored it. It’s time to remind them.

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I’d be very happy if they removed that damn three shot mode and made it fully automatic. Then it will be a very good weapon.

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I actually think it would be a major and well deserved nerf to an overpowered weapon to give it full auto (Shhhh, don’t tell them I want full auto on my beloved Federov Rifles)

The weapon must also have a magazine capacity of 15 rounds.

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It’s just unplayable even with such low rof it’s burst only can hit accurately half of it’s shots. It’s the least reliable SF rifle in a game. It’s actually worse than BR4 Breda or G43.

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I really wish people would stop using the word “Historically accurate” (or even “historical authenticity”) when referring to the functionality of firearms, because it’s not appropriate, a gun isn’t an event and its functionality isn’t either. The placement of a gun can be historically accurate or not, and the time when it’s used, and who made it when etc etc. But not its functionality.

Which doesn’t make sense, I haven’t found evidence that they made Madsen mags in 7.62x54R with less than 25 rounds. (And even then even if they did, a 25 would still be compatible).

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Not even soviets would design 3rnd burst rifle with 25rnd mag.

It is that easy.

But I don’t like the idea of nerfing/buffing weapons based on some HA justifications. Especially if we’re are talking about weapons that people could have paid real money for.

Just reverse totally nonsensical change to G43k.


Changes to gameplay based on HA are only crippling the game.

But it has nothing to do with historical accuracy…
If it was a game set in the modern day with the same guns, with the same complaint about the gun in question not working like it’s currently implemented, wouldn’t it sound straight-jacket-banging-your-head-on-padded-walls-insane to go “stop complaining about historical accuracy”? Or to say “please make it more historically accurate” in the first place?

The complaint about the gun itself wouldn’t be less valid but somehow it feels like it would be taken more seriously if the game was set in the modern day…

It seems like the whole hatred against historical accuracy has become subject to a purity spiral, any suggestion that things should reflect reality more, even if has nothing to do with historicity, is looked upon as a historical accuracy complaint. It also doesn’t help when people like OP thinks stuff like this is a historicity issue, all it does is cripple and ruin any discussion.

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Was forwarded today, thanks for the suggestion

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