Progress wipe ? Compensation for CBT Testers?

Yeah that’s what I did

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here is your decal, lol
they could give us a premium pass, so we can get the progression back faster :slight_smile:
it would also be like paying the beta testers in some way.
and it wouldn’t be anything different from what someone else can buy
Or this would be a very cool idea: totally remove the CBT squads and compensate this with golden coins of same value. (I have cbt squads.)

It is a rubbish argument

Excellent!

Rubbish - they told us the terms and conditions of playing right from the get go.

@#@#%@%# entitled nonsense! :stuck_out_tongue:

I love enlisted, i mean entitled people, they amuse me a lot. :smiley:

We are not employed by them. They do not owe us anything.

And making the premium guns available for gold? I actually kinda like this ngl.

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I meant argument of TCatPlaysGamezYT.

It is not nonsense. It is just a fear of losing all my progress, something like deleting my saved file in different game. You have no right to call my opinion rubbish, I can’t blame you for all you do at home is sitting and playing games, I don’t have time for that, and if my progress needs to be WIPEd i wanted just more than skin …

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The point of a wipe is that players will not have stuff at the end of it. Why would you bother to wipe if you don’t actually wipe by giving the wiped players such bonusses?

You got to play the game early, simple as that.

Your opinion is trash, we’ve known about the wipe when OBT hits from the start. We didn’t even need the devs to say it, it’s pretty common knowledge that for online games, when changing from CBT to OBT, there is always a wipe involved and the testers get a special forum badge usually, or an ingame skin, or both. This is pretty common.

Don’t play CBT games if you don’t want your progress to be wiped for OBT.

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The wipe is inevitable not so much because of difference in progress, as because of serious change in mechanics, including squad composition. You simply cannot keep your existing squads and progress trees.

A problem with difference in soldiers levels won’t be resolved by wipe for long. People who will join the game a month or three later will face the same situation. It should be resolved by other means, like matchmaker balancing it to some degree. I don’t want an exact level based balance, like in other games, but something has to be done.

As of rewards I hope we’ll get something memorable, not practical.

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I totally agree with you, also with that matchmaking that should be better solution than WIPE … but they WIPE it anyway, i just want better reward for playing beta, not just for me but for all of you that test this game and volunterly paid for it even after realization that it will be free.

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Has been discussed quite a bit and on top of probably not making truly balanced matches, it would further split the already not-so-large playerbase.

The true solution would be is making high level stuff not OP.

You don’t get to speak for me, or for anyone else, nor do you get to want something on my behalf, curb your self importance.

A forum badge for testers is fine, or if they want to do something in-game, a cosmetic of some kind, nothing else. I’m sure there’s a decent amount of testers that agree we should ONLY get maybe a forum badge and a cosmetic item to memorize CBT, NOTHING that will help us in any way when OBT hits.

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We’ll see about player base soon, won’t we? What is true for CBT won’t necessarily stay true in just few days.

As a side note - by obvious reasons right now we have very few players. I recently had rather uneven battle and calculated participants after it. It was just myself against two players on opposite side.

I must say, it was still quite playable game. Were it 1 vs 1 I might not even notice :).

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This game will never get a playerbase as large as WT. WT already struggles with keeping certain gamemodes populated, Enlisted will probably be worse if we added full matchmaker on top of what would be 4+ campaigns in the long run.

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This may be terrible unpopular, but personally I think Enlisted should stick to 2 campaigns, just my 2 cents.

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I personally am more fan of an era based system.

For example, for Soviets, you would have 4 “campaigns” that each shared progression:

  • Moscow
  • Winter war
  • Stalingrad/Kursk
  • Berlin

Matchmaker would be year based, with the most recent stuff you got in your lineup used as reference for this, but you would not get matched into campaigns that have gear at least 2 years newer than you. For example, if you only got an SVT-38 squad, you would be able to fight in Moscow or Winter War, maybe Stalingrad/Kursk. You would need SVT-40 to get into Berlin, but for balance reasons you wouldn’t be able to get into Moscow in that case.

This would also be ideal for the more popular nations. For example, America would have 4 campaigns: Normandy, Bulge, Pacific and Invasion of Italy. Meanwhile Japan would only have 1-2: Pacific and Invasion of China. It also lets us a lot of minor nations much more easily, as well as have more crossovers between nations. For example, you would be able to get into Normandy both as Americans as Brits.

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I mean its your opinion and I am good with that, however, too often in gaming, we’ve seen DDAY, Omaha Beach, and US vs. Germans over a million times at this point, and Moscow we’ve seen some of it. Seeing theatres that haven’t been in gaming or are few and far between is actually interesting, such as the battle of tusnia where nobody dont know what that is.

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you said wipe is inevitable not so much because of difference in progress but cause of mechanics changes etc. … now i hope you are right about that , i personally think as well that wipe will not resolve some issues for long time, some blokes here says wipe is on regular basis in other CBT games, mabye im not only one who havent noticed this fact since im a regular player who really like war games but hasnt played any CBT before and just didnt expected it … i say why should enlisted behave just like others ? something memorable is fine … but practical is better… if they asked you what would you rather choose … if skin or your progress preserved i think progress makes logical decision when you spend a lot of effort and time ingame when you can… as somebody stated here , i also dont have much time for games … progress should be kept (or squad level tokens returned) and balancing improved… why should i play slightly different game all over again when new players will be always coming by even after year from OBT start so when i will be high level again (in like half year or so) somebody will always cry im OP ? Okay maybe after wipe we will be all equal in same way … :smiley: but no i dont think so since somebody will still have bought more squads than me therefore has advantage i cannot purchase anymore… so no we will not be totally equal … then why even bother with wipe at all ?

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“More popular nations” is quite a statement, beautiful in some way. :rofl:

Anyway, this proposal won’t work because each campaign is two sided and symmetrical. For Russians you could add Khalkin Gol, but what Germans will do there or in Winter War?

Everybody would like some continuity, but if it is not implemented in the simplest case of uniting Moscow and Berlin campaigns with the same participants, it sure won’t fly with more complex cases.

Also, current campaigns are long as they are and, judging by used weapons, devs keep a lot in reserve for their expansions. If Moscow is, say, 40 levels long, then adding continuation stage of Stalingrad won’t do much in term of level separation.

Not every nation would participate in every campaign. Germany would be fighting in for example Tunesia while the Soviets fight in that Winter War. I wrote out the complete suggestion here: ERA based Progression/Matchmaking/Campaign system (redone)