Possible penalty for Kamikaze

Suicide bombing in a plane should ban you from aircraft for at minimum 5 minutes

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15 minutes, a guy who does kamikaze must have no sense of the game, so he must die very often, and 5 minutes for him shouldn’t make a difference

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Just bann Airplanes, Problems solved

Selfless teamamtes wont care that your team loses tickets.

The best solution is to just not give any kills if you died while bombing, just like it was.

This has been suggested countless times, months ago, but the devs dont fucking care anymore, if they ever did

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start with fixing tank gray zone first and you will end 90% of kamikaze plane runs. also when player kamikazes, it doesnt prevent team from doing good job with it… it just makes player wait for another minute before he can use plane. most of the frustration is on tank players that get kamikazed.

you mean bots? most of the times those are bots in negative

sometimes you get to play vs 10 human players with 7 bots. so it depends on which side is actually populated.

I believe that is a bad idea, cause it just makes people more toxic to their own team, which in turn will thin out the playerbase even more.
Maybe put a limit on how many times a vehicle can be spawned so people are more careful.

And of course players with most kills also tend to have more deaths than average, cause they are risking more to get those kills.

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There’s bunch of reasons for kamikaze run :

  1. A tank camping in a gray area farming your infantry while your tanker don’t do anything then the person that killing that tank helped the team no matter if he die or not.

  2. Sometimes you have bunch of bots or noob in your team then you know you can’t fly forever or you will lose in 4 min, then you just get to your plane and try to kill as much as you can(specially as defender )

  3. Lots of people don’t really know how to fly , they don’t want to die but they don’t know how and there’s no good tutorial to explain + there’s more than one type of plane some of them are even harder to fly.

4.sometimes the resupply point is far far away, then they get bored and decide to do a kamikaze run (specially as defender )

And other reasons, if you want them to remove or nerf it then you have to fix those problems first. If people learn how to get 14 kills per run they won’t do a kamikaze run, as I can’t fly with fw in berlin but farming all game long in tunisia using my bomber.

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I rather suicide bomb to deleat as much enemy as possible and be on the ground after attacking the point than be 3000km away from the point and then ask on forum for ways to nerf what others are doing for my own personal gain.

This said, I rather them incentivise people to play the point more. Than nerf what flowers consider a bad way to play the game.

Tldr:it works, cope.

Ps:delivering ways to penalize a play action isn’t the way to go, the way to go should be suggesting ways to counter said movement and deliver more content to the game.
Also, A new player shouldnt he penalized because he is still learning how to fly and crashed is plane… He is the one that needs xp.

I don’t think it’s possible to ever completely get rid of it, but I would think it possible to make it less attractive, one of the big problems with the game as a whole is that there are no negatives to having a negative kill death ratio

I see a lot of games and where we’re losing, and there are a lot of comments floating by endgame in the chat with players congratulating themselves were doing so well but they have a hugely negative kill death ratio’s, it doesn’t really even occur to them that they’ve actually hurt the team more that they’re congratulating themselves for helping by dying as much as they did, there’s more to the game and just fighting the point and that’s kind of the point :slight_smile:

I understand this side, but I use a lot of bomber and a lot of times I lose the chance to use it because of Kamikaze players who wait for the same to appear to do this
That’s why I defend the thesis of punishing the Kamikaze when the plane is intact, when it suffers damage I think it’s fair to use the same to damage the enemy.
Problem is leaving the same unavailable to be doing kamikaze all the time

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I mean those players who just take the plane and throw it straight at a target, without even trying to bomb a location, or shoot down an enemy plane.
At least have a minimum flight TIME to count the kills “Kamikaze” something from 2 to 3 minutes, if the plane is damaged in less than that time, already count the deaths by kamikaze

I do it alot.

Not that I m not capable of dogfighting
But more because when I do it, and tbh, I m alone in the sky
It does clear the surroundings on the cap zone
Gives fair amount of xp
And i can be as inf in the point seconds after.

This game promotes suicide!???

Remove planes from the game

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Im offended by kamikaze, plane need to be removed

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better add a function to cause damage when doing a kamikazi

I have the same feeling when my teammate get a Panzer 4 in berlin while I have a King tiger waiting for free spot xD

Ok kamikazing is for wimps. If I decide I only want to do one run, I bomb where I want and still kill more than suiciders and fly straight up and jump out, I get a few more kills as the pilot/crew.

Bomb, climb up and suicide in the menu. That’s what I do if I have to. I’d never suicide bomb on purpose. I simply don’t like it.

Yeah the subject of killing yourself it’s kind of polarising, some people rationalise it because it fits their place style, other people don’t want to kill themselves full stop.

They could institute a minimum drop altitude, like the bomb won’t release if you’re under 300 feet, they can also make it so that the bombs detonated instantaneously which would be good but redundant if you instituted a minimum drop altitude, the idea of there being that players Would in an attempt to survive drop higher so that they wouldn’t be killed by the blast, and while that would also be good, it wouldn’t really stop the suicidal player.

The new AA guns are becoming more and more prolific of course they don’t seem to be pointing skyward all that often at the moment, I have killed quite a few of them from the air while they’re shooting at target on the ground.

The thing with the AA guns is they have the potential to keep everybody honest, the suicide jockey is going to meet an untimely end Because the gun would in theory stop him before he got to that end, I am the player that wants to try and survive it’s going to drop higher to try to get away from the guns

I would encourage limiting aircraft respawns per player to ONE, this way people will quickly learn to keep to what they got till the end. But that would require changing game mechanics in most sensitive part, because if player don’t use Premium - as mysels - he won’t have a second slot for tanks.