1 good bomb gives more points than winning the game is what you just told me so where was i wrong with saying sitting back farming kills gives more points than actual playing to win? You only reinforced my point. I have to take 2.5 points to get to someone who just lucked out on a single tankshot. I tried it over and over just farming not taking the objective gives you way more points than actualy winning the game.
Where?
Everything I just said above, read again. TLDR the process of making the team win the game gives the most points total. Which is not always sitting back and shooting.
Happy you could twist my words in your head so they seem to fit your personal goals.
Not twisting your words. Your words are 50 points for acutaly try to win, which equals 1.5 killed infantrymen, which makes it a slaughtershouse instead of a push on a objective, since you probably die taking the objective and sitting in a bush and only killing 3 bots gives you more than actualy fighting to win.
Yes you twisted my words. You pretend that the 50points is all there is to what I typed above regarding winning the game.
Answer to your problem is you.
Im done good luck with your weird ass argument with yourself I have better things to do than argue with you when you dont even try to understand what I am saying.
guess slightly touching the objective while overpushing made me MVP or did I build that many ralypoints without realising? The only reason we won is our enemies were absolute garbage. This is how it looks if someone doesen’t give a shit about his team and only going for kills. He gets MVP. I can make the discrepancy even biger if take a tank with me. If you want to do some math just add like 90 asists.
There is 900 free points you could have picked up in a short game like that with rally points alone. That is more than 50% of your score. Then I dont even count the rest of the things I mentioned.
Oh, if you accidentally stood next to the objective 3.5 more time you would have gotten 175 more points as well. That is nearly 10% of your score.
So looking at that I could have gotten 1075 more points without much more effort. Just build a rally point and stand on an objective. That is 70% more score you could have had extra and that in such a short game.
Do the things I mentioned above on top of getting loads of kills and you get way more xp and win even more.
That little stat screen shows nothing tbh. Especially not a person that is carrying games.
No I couldn’t. You seem to forget i wasn’t in a tank as i should have or a plane. They were already blocked by others trying the same, who also didn’t help on the points. If the enemies would have had something resembling a brain we would have lost. As I said there are like 90 Asists missing.
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Trying to eliminate enemies on caps always helps a lot to capture it…
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If you are sitting on your spawn with pitiful view (even with zoom) you shouldn´t be surprised you have lower impact on battle in exchange for total safety (also it should be noted, that tank spawns are with few exceptions placed far away from the objective, usually with blocked view… grey zone and spawn are two different things so don´t mix that up).
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If you want to be really useful as tanker and get those sweet loads of kills and assists, you should move away from your spawn on better position that would allow you to cut enemy reinforcements to cap etc. Which of course comes with notably increased danger of getting flanked and killed.
If you coulden’t shoot from most spawns with tanks at the objective you would be right, but right now they can sit in spawn and just shoot he shells at the objective concussing everyone trying to get it.
Grey zone and spawn are two different things.
Spawn: place where you pop up out of nothing. Particularly tank spawns are usually far away from combat zone (where actual fights are taking place) and without any solid view on cap… with few exceptions of course.
Grey zone (as I tend to call it): place your team can´t access (well, you can but you will get automaticaly killed), because it is area that belongs to enemy team. How short or wide it is depends on the map and is on some maps questionably close to the objective (for defenders).
If there is enemy tank sitting there, you just need to take tank of your own (or a plane) and get rid of him. I don´t see much problems on that front.
Alternatively you can try to sneak there on suicide mission and blow him up with TNT or something.
Of course, as I said previously, I would be more for increasing rewards for capturing points or killing enemies during defending or attacking the cap. But I dont believe that punishing players who are contributing to victory in vehicles should be a thing.
Sry they sit in the greyzone way off in the back. They are barely useful, nearly impossible to kill and anoying all around and they still end up at the top of the scoreboard. Your solution for teammastes like that every game is to suicide into the enemy greyzone? At least it was a creative effort. And further just concussing and shooting the team is helping the team how? They just make it impossible for those who try to fight back. If a tank moves up and fights tanks, clears a street and such things i have no issue, but most of them just sit back block a tank you would realy need and hinder their own team while farming kills.
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No, that is the last option… 90% of all times (aka unless its jumbo or T-50 which is rare) I manage to get rid of them either by directing pilots on their location or using my own tank to kill him which is usually more than enough.
Also, if you are camping in the back without any sight on cap or enemy tanks then you are useless as tanker for your team. If you are camping somewhere with a sight on the cap then you are useful and actively contributing to the victory by somewhat keeping attackers/defenders in check.
Sure, it is annoying to be on the receiving end (and hells, I was on the receiving end many times), but all nations have options how to get rid of them… if no one does… well it is problem of the team.
But that is not a good justification for punishing tankers for doing their job that tanks are supposed to do anyway.
Except if you engage infantry or other tanks on somewhat close range “in the streets” and without any support you are dead (and kind of dumb) meat that deserves its incoming destruction. But even if that is a good thing, think about those “fair” tankers who are going to get punished severely too.
That is “premium squad overkill nerf” level of solution. Simply rise reward for directly engaging enemies on caps and capping itself to reward infantry more.
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unless you never look at the map and you concuss your team on the point as i said and you ignored for the 3rd time and you ignore it to make your strawman work.
So you stay back in the greyzone and farm kills because if you do what you are suposed to you might die? I see strawman after strawman to excuse the not even trying attitude of a lot of the players have. Siting in the greyzone with a sniper all game is more or less the same. Yes he makes kills and might be way up in the scoreboard and is still beyound useless and gets rewarded by the emphasis on high killcounts over everything. It’s not even the case that concussing the team and effectivly make them unable to aim if they try to take the point they should lose points since they hinder their team activly. I more and more avoid the objectives since you just get sniped by people playing like this and even have to endure nades, tankfire and artileryfire from your own team, because they need more kills. If you want it to be all about kills go and ask for deathmatch and stop defending the overpassive shitfest that is going on.
Well, tanks should have their assists removed, that is broken. Other than that, just increase points for capturing points.
The assist is needed for lv up the crew of the tanks not only the gunner
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Taking all positions and wining the game for the team is less worth than 17 meaningless kills?
They should divide the xp to reflect the actual work and disincentivise camping in vehicles.
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Yes need a rework but only in strategic point caputure reward they give you only 50 points each for example caputure and defend strategic point in war thunder is more worthing than doing only kills
Exept even if EVERYONE would have used his rally points its impossible to even get 900 points with those respawns. Also thats pretty unlikely that everyone uses only rally points and waits that ‘cooldown’ timer