Oh, and the solution is to make aviation useless.
Ok, bye.
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Exactly, you definitely read the topic and understood completely what people is asking for.
Ok guys, I know this is a sensitive topic, but let’s not get too emotional. Stay constructive and sensible so the discussion can continue.
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and thats crazy and stupid.
planes are an important part of this game, to support your infranty.
The only needed fix is the damage profile, not even more.
we need trenches or places to hide and take cover, also more or better ways to counter planes (maybe like BF 5, AA Guns, which only can shoot in the air, because they are in a hole in the ground or something like this)
if you put planes out of this game, you have another CoD shooter, only with lower movement speed and some bots for kills for free, wow, sounds like a nice game (NOT)
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They still dont need to be OP AF.
Stationary AA’s would be first targets > sealclubbing continues.
Isnt that exactly how current plane gameplay is ?
i got other experience, specially if there arent big bomber like a20
i got some games without planes, or even i got games with allways planes in the sky but then i jump in my fighter plane and shoot them down, also i think if you play smart enough you wont die so many times because fo bombs
maybe, mabye not, put them in the right place and make it possible to rebuild them, so if they destroyed, build them again without losses of building material
moreover they have to be strong enough, so aa guns need buffs, they should be faster and powerfull to be able to destroy planes before they can drop bombs (so if they fly to your aa gun, you should be able to shoot them down, lile BF5, it did it so m any times in bf5)
not at all, normal attacker planes like p 51 oder bf 109 arent that strong to wipe out the whole lobby, and they can dominate the sky so no any other bombers can make their runs
i think there are other ways to balance the planes and infranty without nerfing all good things into death
I think remove 250/500lb bombs, is not a good idea. I think the fact what cause their lethal parameter, is the damage and blast radious. Im using Ju-188 a lot, and those 250 lb (6x) bombs are instant cruel, squad-wiper this I have to admit. In Invasion mode, these bombs are the most effective. Enemies comes from one direction and focusing 1 point. Clear and easy bird with every round of bombing, till you get shot down.
Let me to disagree. Devs cannot put trenches and buildings everywhere around Normandy. If they do…tanks are cannot moves they “smooth” way like now, and all the infatries have to climb/pass all these baricades etc.
Those bombers (I mean only the 250/500 lb bombs) have to be nerfed sufficiently, but not too radicaly. Lot of players like planes when they can support us from above, or drive them to hep land units. I hope these one are not gonna be ruined in the future. 
So you need a specific squad to take out the plane. Tanks dont require such, nor doesnt any of the infantry squad require such.
That alone makes them OP AF.
“If you play smart enough” Well, if the pilots were smart enough too they would do just fine with MG’s and wouldnt need bombs at all.
Again specific unit needed against them while nothing else require such counter.
So far only thing we can agree upon.
So you dont like just to mass murder bots because its boring, but at the same time you would like to keep the flying tanks as they are so they can do the exact mass murdering with nexto none skill requirement bombs ?
Till now, I used to play mostly infantry. I started using planes because my subs asked me for plane tutorials.
And no, when I play infantry, bombs and artillery are not a problem.
this is the solution
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Oh wow, I wonder could you 2 solve world hunger problem by just telling people not to be so hungry 
no, in game description says is a game where you are infantry, tank or plane squad (more or less)
In other way, the 3 kind of squads must push together to cap the point.
So you can’t be a tank and go over the enemy’s army. if you do that, your tank will blown by a demo charge or a tank.
Tanks need ground forces to advance and ground forces need tanks. And them both need planes to clear their advance in front of them.
Neither the plane or tank is capable to capture point which is pretty much the point of entire game.
Infantry can do just fine.
Exactly a problem that planes dont currently have as theres nothing in ground to counter those flying sealclubbing tanks.
No they dont.
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you speak like if there where not enemy planes…
if devs give us enough points for destroy a plane, you will see as when there is a bomber flying, in 2 seconds you have 2 friendly fighters chasing him.
and we get the first fighter at low level, so everyone can use a plane.
This is the case many times and the core problem as theres nothing to counter planes from ground.
if devs gave points for sitting in own spawn braiding pubic hairs do you think everyone would do it then?
And planes can use machineguns so theres no need for bombs. Flawless logic.
no, there is no need to put more trenches, there are a lot. Simply make those trenches and bunkers a safe place.
In other way, devs should make plane sound louder when they are approaching to you, so you have time to hide if you know you are going to be bombed.
don’t compare it, because is not the same.
do you have a fighter? (yes, you get one at low level) use it if you see an enemy plane.
Just because im curious, how does me switching to fighter solve the problem that there still isnt anykind of counter against planes on the ground ?
Oh you dont like to fly anymore after bombs are removed ? Just switch to engineer and build barricades.
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and this is why all 3 kind of squads need others
no if there is a tank, a plane or more infantry
then ask to buff AA and not nerf planes. with a powerfull AA, planes chasing bombers and secure places, if you are killed by a plane, is not because plane is op… is because your hands are nerfed
yes they need others in a war game
Had many games with tanks being only vehicles absolutely no issues as infantry can deal with tanks.
Same as above.
If you cant fly without a sealclubbing flying tank perhaps your hands are nerfed hurrdurrrdurrr.
Uhm, no.
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