Nice that you tell us what we would feel because people are too stupid for that.
Yeah no shit, mate.
Because I guess the forum, Reddit, Discord and Steam are not enough to give feedback on maps and modes.
Also, I’m not sure how banning maps does not tell the devs that this map/ mode sucks.
for it to work it would require
A, enough players unless you want to bot farm, or be alone against actual human players ( and the whole pre merge all over again )
and B, somehow have people that do not disagree with you.
… good luck.
because as you have your nitpicks, others might have theirs.
some people doesn’t realize that they aren’t the center of attention.
and what some asks might not actually be beneficial for everyone else.
nor sometimes realizes the implications and the many " ifs " for it to work.
by design.
first part, i can’t disagree with.
except you get all sort of answers.
so, partially helpful if you want to improve a design.
but also entites to the last point.
some people do not really want to tackle issues rather than avoid them entirely " without thinking about it ".
now, i am not in favor of communism or some sort, but it wouldn’t hurt to just trying to be helpful and actively seek a common goal to improve.
rather than do nothing about it. or make a half baked remark / idea and leave it at that.
What?
I matchmake Soviets BR2, I either ban Berlin or I quit Berlin – I will not participate either way.
I agree to wait until Moscow/Stalingrad/Rzhev lobby happens.
Everyone else can play whatever they want.
Simple as that.
…
and how do you precisely expect that to happen.
but forget that for a moment.
why should a rule like that ever exist when everyone else is fine with whatever is going on?
maybe, and i say maybe, the game isn’t at fault for nitpicks that YOU have.
perhaps a solution is to… play that map for once even if it doesn’t always benefit you.
So what is a green and red thumb gonna tell ya?
Not like its a survey or something.
half of an answer.
" i can see most people don’t like X or Y ".
still doesn’t answer why.
now, it’s not our job to do for them,
but anyone with half a brain cell can see what and why is happening.
Map+BR ban, as people have suggested a hundred times already.
Because people have suggested this a hundred times already, are you oblivious which thread you’re in rn?
Why on earth would I spend my time willingly doing things I hate? Lol
Your stance is really something else:
“No you can’t have freedom of choice, you must suffer, even though this doesn’t affect my experience at all”
Not really just a delusion at this point.
Instead, such individual is living in total denial of reality.
It’s either trolling or very hardcore naivety.
… because there aren’t enough people for it to work.
because of few folks nitpicks?
because most people aren’t selfish as you are.
no really, it’s fine to play few matches on a map that you dont like.
especially if you can make the best out of it.
i suppose i do have a gift of rarely being angry and not being down by every minor inconvinience.
but enlisted has it’s own rule.
which aren’t many.
so i don’t see how for someone to sit here and complain while providing suggestions that only really benefits him self and his rather selfish views, should demand to change it for everyone else.
it’s fascinating how you apparently hate this game for being alt history, and doesn’t cave to all your needs, yet you still play it.
i’m sorry, but maybe this game ain’t made for everyone.
especially if can’t play a single map because of very few nitpicks.
EVEN MORE SO when the editor exist.
but you rather change what cannot be changed instead of expanding what’s already there through the editor.
go figure i guess.
Complete miscommunication, ok.
Let me try another way:
Imagine you’re matchmaking BR2 Soviets and you’re loaded into a Berlin match.
Would you rather have 9 players on your team + 1 bot vs 10 enemy players or 10 v 10?
Because I’m quitting that 100%.
If you want a 10 v 10, don’t hate on people who want a BR/map ban system.
Because it will only affect you positively.
are you arguing about this suggestion or is this full on personal?
been there, done that.
hell, i even won 8 vs 10s.
and lost 10 v 6s.
anything goes, and anthing can happen.
precisely why some team loses rather than win.
if only that guy didn’t left, he could have came back with some good xp stack.
but no.
no sense of sportman ship, no sense of teamwork, nothing of the kind.
only me me me.
yeah and we are surprised how certain things are the way they are?
not of one bit.
sounds more like cowardice and insecurity at the first sign of mild inconvenience.
so, the question is, are you really there to play enlisted?
or be some sort of turist that just wants easy matches, or some larp experience while leaving 8/10 matches that aren’t like that.
i already explained why such suggestion doesn’t really work.
if you skim right through without actually reading it, i’m afraid i can’t say more than what i already have said.
Lol you can call me a dozen more mean words
I still will never play a single match of low BR Berlin or high BR Stalingrad.
Never.
So for your own benefit – vote for BR/map ban system 
This is nothing less than the behavior of a very stubborn child.
I would except more reasonable approach from grown up adult.
You won’t achieve anything that way. Only ruining experience for others.
i haven’t, and would never 
there is a reason why penalties were introduced.
on the countrary, it doesn’t benefit me, or most people.
especially since it will make some maps or campaings less prominent than others.
because as i said, some folks rather avoid issues than actually confronts them.
Then enjoy occasional 9v10 matches, I’m terribly sorry if the MM puts you on my team.
Low BR Berlin and high BR Stalingrad will never see me there regardless of penalties.
Until we get the BR/map ban system @_fi_nal is suggesting.
i suppose agree to disagree.
Of course it does.
In this case, change was done for “more fun”.
Not because of existential player count need or queue times.
If the devs want to make soviets and germans fight in gavutu in the future, I don’t care. Just let me opt out of that shit. Like here - fundamental change to map rotation, allow people to opt out or some will do it manually which sucks for everyone.
I will desert low BR Berlin, for instance. There’s cost either way, suggested way is just the one that results in the highest amount of satisfied players.
Yeah, all the promises, I can’t stop laughing! What was it like before the merge?
Promises: We will introduce 5 BR levels and there will be no promotions! Reality: We don’t have enough players, so we have 5 BR levels but basically only Low or High!
Promises: Berlin will be unlocked only for HT; Reality: Berlin for everyone!
Promises: There will be no Tiger in Moscow; Reality: soon!
Promise: We will introduce a feature to opt out of maps! Reality: I have opted out of a few maps; tested 5 games - all of course on the opted-out ones!
Conclusion: I will continue to not play the Berlin map, whether HT or LT, I hate the maps (especially when I think of the stupid train map, no idea if it’s still available!). I don’t care about penalties, I’ve already gone through everything a long time ago!