Thats why i suggest it to be atleast br 3. In br 4 it has little to no use when you can just use panther
I think the Type 1 SMG is fine at BR 3 but they need to fix the camera position while ADS, the current one is way too close to the rear aperture sight.
It’s just a gimmick vehicle, it’s not meant to be a high-performance vehicle like other tanks. The gameplay is incomparable.
But it is still easily playable at BR4, I have it on my regular BR4 lineup.
Cannot be said about the Soviet rocket counterpart tho. That vehicle is pure trash. They should stop selling it. And rather replace it with valentine.
Not to disrespect your opinion, but the 15cm Panzer werfer 42 is objectively worse than the Calliope.
The panzerwerfer is armed with a 10/10 158mm rockets and a sad MG42 that overheats after less than 50 shots.
The most armour it has is 15mm and that’s the tracks, the crew is protected by 8mm of steel. Easy target for any AT rifle, any tank, HMG, aircraft doesn’t even need rockets or bombs since it can be destroyed by strafing alone.
It’s only merit that it may get lucky and overpressure the enemy tank, but its pure RNG.
Meanwhile its counter the Calliope is a tank, it has 60 M8 rockets, a 75mm howitzer gun a machine gun.
The turret has 90mm of effective armour which is a beast for BR4, while the hull does have weak spots its still decent with 60mm of effective armour.
The 75mm gun can knock out any BR3 and many BR4 axis tank including the Panzer IV H and Chi-To.
Its completely immune to panzerwerfer’s biggest weakness, aircraft strafing.
These two objectively don’t belong on the same BR.
That’s not true, you can easily destroy calliope just by shooting to its rocket rack with basically any 20mm cannon.
Plus panzerwerfer has much more powerful rockets than Calliope. More than double the shrapnels, more than double the blast radius.
As I have already said, lowering its BR is nonsense. What it needs is increase of rocket capacity. And potential fix for gunner’s view.
Even if you double the rockets of the panzerwerfer, it will still have less fire power than a calliope which can still has its 75mm howitzer.
No, it’s not.
I’ve played both tanks quite extensively. And to say the Calliope has more firepower because of the main gun is ridiculous.
The Panzerwerfer is much more situational, yes. The Calliope, on the other hand, is quite versatile and can still be considered a threat once its rockets are depleted.
But that doesn’t justify putting the pazerwerfer on BR3 and thus allowing it to farm BR1 and BR2 tanks. That’s simply beyond imagination.
It would ruin experience for any BR1/BR2 tanker encountering this premium vehicle.
Nah, we don’t need every premium vehicle to be powerhouse. Panzerwerfer’s BR definitely shouldn’t be lowered.
Literally everyone can get enough informations to understand what he’s going to purchase. If you want some broken op vehicle, than panzerwerfer isn’t for you. Just like flakbus, JP IV with short gun and many others.
What matters is that panzerwerfer is still pretty easily playable. And you can have pretty good games with it. In its current state.
Pure hypocrisy
Panzer III N, Chi-Ha naval, KV-1,M4A3 105?
Besides I said that they don’t belong on the same BR, moving Calliope to BR5 would also make the vehicles have different BR wouldn’t it?
Yeah, you’re acting like I’ve never suggested to put P38 on higher BRs, lol.
What a hypocrite am I…
Yeah, let’s name out every meta vehicle and then compare it to premium vehicle.
Some of guys are truly pushing pay2win way too hard.
Still…
Comparison in number of shrapnel fragments.
Pz III N: 352
Chi Ha short gun: 611
Sherman 105: 689
IS-2: 1016
KV-2: 1580
Panzerwerfer: 1408
It’s worth to take in consideration difference in fire rate.
The Panzerwerfer is a pretty decent glass cannon for its BR. And I still haven’t seen any good reason to justify putting it against BR1 and BR2 tanks.
A very laughable imagination, especially when contextualized with the Soviet rocket tank.
If you aren’t not doing well with it, it’s certainly not the panzerwerfer’s fault.
Mind explain how Calliope is not P2W on BR4 than?
Well, it’s definitely not p2w against German TT BR4 tanks.
Its main gun with solid AP ammo with no explosive filler has basically zero potential to one-hit the worse BR4 tanks, and basically zero chance to penetrate the better ones.
It only has a higher potential against infantry than its TT counterparts.
But in exchange for that, basically anything can one-shot it if it’s hit to a rocket rack.Whereas if the Panzerwerfer was on a lower tier, it would have the ability to destroy every tank with one shot. While it has got a pretty decent rate of fire. And literally his main disadvantages would not be affected in any way. He’d still be paper, he’d still have to go back to refill point often.
So it would always be a matter of who fires first. Since he would be incredibly effective against more or less anything, a total predator.
That’s not even a calliope on BR4, it usually can’t destroy any BR4 tank outright. Quite opposite, even calliope is scared of any other vehicle. Because it can’t destroy anything fast enough.
Wrong, any aircraft can strafe it, Panzer werfer’s main weakness isn’t even tanks but aircraft.
US doesn’t only face Germany though and Chi-To Japan’s best BR4 tank can be frontally penetrated and since its crammed it’s a very easy target even with solid AP.
My personal experiences does not reflect your statement.
But tbh, in most cases I left the vehicle before it got destroyed. Because returning to refill points is not very efficient thing to do.
Plus as I have already said, planes can destroy calliope as easily as they can panzerwerfer.
How often did you encounter chi-to?
I saw it semi-regurarly after the major update, not sure about now since when I play high BR US always get sucked to Normandy.
Well I think compared to what US have at BR IV this thing can be destroyed with anti tank rifle if its BR III with the premium squad of radio operators with rockets will make for interesting combination can you tell me against what is good at BR IV ? I remember in the past when the rockets where stronger maybe it was good but now its just meh…
Calliope is BR IV it has armor ,rockets, 75 mm gun and then we have this thing with 8mm of armor that can be pen by heavy machine gun at BR IV so against what I can use it ?
Even the soviet rocket vehicle got 35 mm of armor and 24 rockets and its BR II I really dont see that logic how can this be BR IV
Those rockets are very small and BM-8-24 has no other weapons. It may as well be BR1.
It should honestly have its own BR, something like BR -1
You can’t even destroy Pz II with those rockets.
Well i think BR II is fine for it it really doesn’t matter will it be BR I or BR II but between BR IV and BR III there is huge difference now so for 15 cm Pz.W.42 will be really beneficial if its BR III.
Well yes I agree but it really doesn’t matter will it its BR I or BR II while 15 cm Pz.W.42 at BR III will be something that will be interesting to play
It’s already interesting to play, it provides very unique experience. And it is definitely not useless on its current BR. But it has currently quite high skill cap.
I understand that someone would love to see it at BR3, but I think it’s unnecessary. And there’s quite high possibility it could effectively ruin game experience of low BRs players.