Now the AVS-36 is "balanced" as well (and a suggestion on how to fix the trooper full auto weapons problem)

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that’s a whole lotta words, too bad I didn’t read em

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And who do we have here, the brightest mind of the forum, the FG 42 remover, wastedwoodsman :upside_down_face:
That is almost exactly what I want, except not for every soldier, but just for soldiers in a special paratrooper squad. Just read the thread I linked in the first post.

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i dont want it removed tard i said balance you cant read so good can you

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By giving a machine gun to the every enemy soldier…

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for all troopers so you can choose short range or med to long range
fg42 vs johnson riffle
stg vs m2

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But my point is that neither the FG 42 nor the Johnson LMG was used by all soldiers, so why not lock them to the squad consisting of the soldier class that actually used them - paratroopers.

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this is just not true the british used them the americans used them for normandy there were 1500 available

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But not all soldiers, it wasn’t a standard issue rifle meant to be carried by every soldier in the squad.

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doesnt matter i don’t want a bolt action simulator period

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Neither the G 43 nor the M1 Garand are bolt actions. Also, if you want to play games with a lot of full auto weapons for everyone, don’t expect realistic WW2 games to meet there criteria.

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Wiki: M2: Selective-fire carbine
I mean, come on. It still fires .30 bullets. Those are borderline-pistol bullets. Sure on par with the ammunition of the StG, AVS, Avtom, FG or the AK family.
Intermediate cartridges mean that the gun/ ammo has better stopping power compared to weaker ammunition types. That includes the .30/ Carbines, an own type of weapon, which should replace heavier rifles like the M1G or M1903 and have slightly better stopping power compared to the .45. But it was still weaker than the ammo the M1G etc. used. Also consider that the M2 performed awful in Korea due to its rather low stopping power.
Its nothing more than a bloody SMG.

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there’s plenty of automatics if you play germany they even get a full atuo sniper but the allies dont have shit to compete typical German main cry Germany suffers allies op

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It isnt obvious why the M2 and the StG arent in the same category of weapons?

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Where did I say that Allies are OP or that Germany suffers? Hell, the whole topic is about Darkflow nerfing Allies for no reason. Allies. And yes, if I want the FG 42 to be locked for a hypothetical paratrooper squad only, I want all its variants to be locked like this.

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AVS Sniper?

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epic meme dude. It gets funnier the more I see it :sunglasses:

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That’s the problem with English nomenclature - it’s based on length, which is more arbitrary than, say, caliber based terminology, and the definitions can overlap.
From the Wikipedia: “The U.S. Army defines assault rifles as ‘short, compact, selective-fire weapons that fire a cartridge intermediate in power between submachine gun and rifle cartridges.’” So:

  • short, compact - a carbine is a rifle with a shorter barrel (be it a shorter version of the same weapon system like the M4 is a carbine variant of an M16 or shorter from a standard-issue rifle, like the M1 Carbine is a carbine because it’s shorter than the M1 Garand), so check.
  • selective-fire - check.
  • cartridge intermediate in power between submachine gun and rifle cartridges - from Wikipedia’s list of service intermediarte cartridges, number four: “.30 Carbine (7.62×33mm) cartridge of the US M2 select fire carbine and M1 semi-automatic carbine.” - check.

So yes, the M2 Carbine is a Selective-fire carbine and yes, it is an assault rifle as well.

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As above.

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So sad it’s true

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Thats the issue here. The later definition would make the M16 (and actual all ARs aside from the AR/ M4 family) not an assault rifle. Also M2 would fulfill the submachine gun definitions (Plus the .30 was even weaker than the .45 most of the time.)

  • Fires ammunition identical to pistol ammunition

  • Automatic (selective-fire exists there too (Thompson or PPSh))

  • Less power than a rifle/ machine gun

The same goes for the role as PDW:

  • Fullfill SMG requirements plus dires pistol-rifle hybrid rounds/ better at range

Also existed both definition of AR and PDW of the USA in WW2 too, where the US didnt even had “assault rifles” until 1945 (pretending that the M2 is actually a AR)?