Normandy Axis gameplay is very boring, but Allies is too hard

A simple way to settle this is to let the AXIS side land on the beach in Normandy for a week or so and we can finally see if it is the player base or not.

Ehm No. At least not the way how he “compares”. After all, he wrote that the Zookas suck becuse they cant kill Tigers and Panthers, not because they are worse than the Faust and Schreck. And while they are worse than the German ones, especially the M9 is not bad/ deserves to be red/ bad (I mean the PIAT is green and that only because of the Sturmpistole while it has worse pen values than the M9A1).

Well. The Thompson M1A1 has 0.86 dispersion. Thats like 0.04 worse than the MP40 and even 0.02 better than the FNAB, which is green for him. And I would also like to remember that according to him, the Beretta is green but at the same time he puts the M38 on orange when it comes to close range (and nobody considers that the Thompson does 8.2 dmg/ 2HK). So yeah. Thompson is worse at range but better in CQC (at least the M1) and even he is aware of that.
So again its about preferences I guess.

So do German MGs and according to him they are green.

Dispersion chart (sadly you cant post it here because they keep deleting it for reasons). Plus BARs suffer less from movement penalty.

M9 has pen value of 102mm
PIAT has 100mm pen and high damage, unlike bazooka.

And Normandy maps often give you places where you have to use smg at long range.

All smgs are 2hk in cqb.

Mgs don’t need to hit every soldier multiple times.

They shouldn’t have any noticeable penalty at all, like avt or fg.

-Argues-

Well. I have complaints from people that the PIAT is sometimes unable to pen the side armor. If they are wrong, PIAT is better then but with the logic of him, M9A1 is orange and not red. After all, PIAT is only green because of the Sturmpistole. Not because of its stats.

Depends. D-Day outside of the bunkers, Ver-Sur and Airfield sure.
Le Bre, Omer or Gare… or basically 80% of all cps “CQC”.
Though distances we are talking about are a joke here compared to other games.

MP40 has 7.2, PPSh 6.6, ERMA MP/ almost all 9mm SMG apart from MP40 and MP35 6.8…
2HK I guess.
Sole SMGs with 2HK are Kiraley and MP43 iirc.

3HK isnt that much.

They dont have real penalties (as they should. The BAR isnt a light gun after all). Ask the creators of the dispersion chart.

The biggest problem with the M1 and M9 bazookas is their difficulty in handling.
It is possible to destroy tanks up to the Panther with a single shot if it is hit at a specific distance and at a specific small angle.
On the other hand, the Panzerfaust can easily destroy enemy tanks, although its range is inferior to that of the bazooka.

Go and have a search, bar is way heavier than avt and fg.

PIAT just simply isn’t reliable. Even a AB41 requires multiple shots to kill it.

It make sense . Allies nearly failed at the real war. if german/ allies plane ratio had not been like 1/40 they would have driven them to the sea and nearly managed that in reality even with that unblievable odds .
In the game, all teams have equal vehicles and supplies so…
Git gud losers

There’s an old Italian saying,

“If my grandpa had wheels, he’d have been a barrow”.

Is that a historically wrong sight for the weapon or not?

if it wasn’t the planes then it would be the crippling lack of soldiers, fuel and resources that would prevent that since at this point the mighty panther’s armor was basically as strong as tin cans also the USN and the Royal navy was in the channel with their battleships armed with 14 inch and 16 inch guns :slight_smile:

looking around our current world it seems the allies lost

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Far from driving the allies into the sea with basically no armor, teenager and old conscripts that were ill supplied, lack of air superiority or even support, and even more.

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You really don’t want to go down this road, because there is basically an academic school dedicated to why people like you are wrong.

Firstly, all of those fancy weapons Germany had were few and far between due to how expensive they were, how difficult they were to produce and maintain and how shit German supply lines were. Everyone else was issued whatever the Germans could find, and that included shit like the MAS 36, which was a stopgap rifle and not intended to fight a war with. Furthermore, the advanced weapons that they did have barely worked about half the time, if they could even manage that. Meanwhile the Allies ensured they could maintain the logistical situation of invading Normandy before they attempted D-day, and not only did their top of the line weapons work, they had so many of them that sometimes squad would run many more BARs and Thompsons than they should have according to doctrine.
As for tanks, even the Cromwell (which had many mechanical issues even upon entering service in 1944) had a service life far beyond any of the German big cats. Sure on paper the cats were better, but in practice they broke down so much and were such a hassle to maintain that the Allies barely encountered any with the exception of finding them abandoned after it broke down. In fact, the majority of the tanks the Allies did face were Panzer IIIs and IVs as well as StuGs, which even the 75mm Sherman handily outclassed and outnumbered.
Now as for the actual landings, most of the “German” troops were Osttruppen, or prisoners of war from the east, (who typically already lacked training) who were issued whatever the Germans could scrounge up, typically an outdated bolt action rifle (again, like the MAS 36), and told to fight the Allies or get shot. Meanwhile, the Allies had troops that may have been relatively green, but had been trained for far longer that your average “German” trooper, and had better equipment, with the British and Canadians using the Lee-Enfield No.4 Mk.1, one of the best bolt action rifle at the time, and the American using the M1 Garand which outclassed everything the Germans had. Furthermore, the Americans were in such a situation where their logistical situation and manufacturing base allowed them to have so much surplus weapons that it was not uncommon that for the only perquisite to getting your hands on a better weapon was how much the CO liked you, regardless of what doctrine said. So basically, your average Allied trooper was better trained, better equipped and had better supporting fire than anything the Germans could muster. Therefor no, it is not a miracle that the Allies didn’t get “driven to the sea”, the Allies were just in a far superior position to the Axis by 1944, and arguably the same could be said in for every other year in the war after 1942.

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Thomson is a good weapon, but its mechanical sight for the endless dithering is puzzling, because the real gun shaking will not so obvious on mechanical sight, m2 carbine mechanical sight I have been hoping that the official to solve this problem, but now there is still no saw the official to do any action

You and I have both spoken about the mechanical sight of the M2 carbine, but there has been no official response

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To me there is nothing wrong with the sight of the mechanical sight, the real problem is that the mechanical sight shakes like crazy when it fires