No PPSh-41 for Leningrad

The next campaign points to Leningrad in my opinion, and Leningrad was cut off from the rest of Russia and they had no blueprints for the weapon so they were forced to continue producing PPD-40 until the PPS-42 and PPS-43 were created.

Gaijin please get this right and please don’t **** it up like Moscow with the MKb-42 and PZ.IV F2, im begging you.

SMG progression should go like this:

Soviets: PPD-34/38 (25 rounds) → Captured MP-40 → PPS-42 → PPS-43 → PPD-34/38 (73 Rounds) → PPD-40.

Germans/Finns: Suomi KP/-31 (20 rounds) → MP-40 → MP-35 → Beretta M38 (40 rounds) → MP-716(r) → Suomi KP/-31 (72 rounds)

Edit: made weapon progression much more unique.

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cool idea and unique SMG progression

sadly, imo we don’t need any more campaigns until some essential issues are fixed

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I agree but down the road i hope they don’t pull another Moscow and add weapons to the campaign that were never there.

People are about to yell about how all these prototypes were never there but we cant prove that for sure, but it adds variety to the game.

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Swap the PPD-34 with 34/38 (both versions), MP-40 and MP-38 and it’s good. And mkb is looking legit here.

How many suggestions you have to suggest? Seen some really absurd ones too but…

Which part of Leningrad campaign is this? No PPSh yet there’s PPS-43 seems like you are looking at a time period of something like Battle of Velikiye Luki, Operation Iskra(1943) or after it. PPD-40 was already obsolete at that point where the Soviets are just expending what’s left of the PPD-40 stocks that were being replaced by the PPSh. Even Stalingrad has the time traveling PPS-42 when the more realistic option is captured MP38/MP40 or lend lease M1928A1 Thompson.

I’m not a fan of this Pacific Style Frankenstein of a campaign with the mixture of early and late war equipment considering it could be a real mess like why I get early Type 100 but not early Type 99 as ended up getting the late one.

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Replace the ppd 34 with the MP 40 captured, then it would be unique if the germans get captured ppd40

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Any evidence for that?

game should stop focusing on weapons
once you get the historical ones
why do you have to add prototypes and more shit ?
focus on maps is the way to go.
and delete the stupid grey zones.

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Hidden weapons

The city was cut off from the rest of the Soviet Union, they never received the blueprints for PPSh-41 production, the PPD-40 was in service and was still manufacturered until 1945 and in Leningrad the PPD-40 was the only submachine gun they could produce until the PPS was invented.

Which hidden weapon can point to Leningrad? Since those weapon are also valid in Moscow.

You did not answer my question which period of the siege is this considering supply lines have been opened for a limited time around 42-43 through Lake Ladoga allowing Leningrad to have more supplies so there’s a possibility of PPSh being supplied from the mainland besides other important supplies.

Its like do you want 1941 but you have PPS-42, PPS-43 or what? At the time during the siege, the PPS-43 is being produced mainly in Moscow in 1943 after refinements of the PPS design but Leningrad factories didn’t get it until later on. The inconsistency of why you add PPS-43 but not PPSh because not produced in Leningrad is just stupid.

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PPD34 makes no sense and is not a new gun because it gets a new stick magazine, not to mention the PPS gang. Like, did the Soviets never bothered to use PPShs during their attempts to end the siege and counter-offensives, but used scrapped guns from the 30’s and time-travel PPS?

Most likely gold orders or more Moscow and SG premiums.

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And why a 1941 campaign if Moscow already exists for that?

It doesn’t matter there is no evidence of PPSh-41 blueprints making it into Leningrad, also Leningrad didn’t even have the industrial equipment to manufacture sheet metal stamping technology, the PPS-42 was built out of bending and hammering metal around a mandrel.

Nothing indicates that the next campaign will be Leningrad

According to your logic, does that mean you don’t want PPSh in Stalingrad too because factories there didn’t have PPSh production line due to being bombed by the Luftwaffe? Okay lets delete PPSh in Berlin because “No blueprints made into Berlin” when the Soviets didn’t produce shit there in 1945. No PPSh blueprints in Leningrad doesn’t mean it’s not used there from those supplied from the rest of the USSR alongside attempts to break up the siege.

Again supply lines with reinforcements and supplies through Lake Ladoga that was called the road of life especially with the lake being frozen.

Hell even PPD-34 was already obsolete in the timeline of Stalingrad since production numbers from the 30s were small compared to thousands of PPD-40 then later millions of PPSh and PPS because of military officials at the time prefer automatic rifles than SMGs which Degtyarev’s influence alongside the Winter War saved the SMG for the Red Army the hard way.

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Bombs barley stopped production, T34 plant was producing tanks all day and all night despite the siege and bombing, and supplies were being poured into Stalingrad by the Soviets and American lend lease.

“Okay lets delete PPSh in Berlin because “No blueprints made into Berlin””

There were over 6 million PPSh-41 submachine guns in Soviet hands by that time and id estimate that with all casualties around 900,000 Soviets had a PPSh-41 in Berlin.

“Again supply lines with reinforcements and supplies through Lake Ladoga that was called the road of life especially with the lake being frozen”

did they bring a batch of PPSh-41s or a handful? Did they bring industrial stamping equipment and blueprints?

“Hell even PPD-34 was already obsolete in the timeline of Stalingrad”

Both the PPD-34 and PPD-34/38 were produced in Leningrad until 1942.

does not make sense, the pd34 and 40 needed even more components to be manufactured than a ppsh

But they had the necessary machine tools to do so unlike the PPSh-41