NIEM: adding Italy

This video pretty much tells y’all how I think they could add Italy to the game. Let me know what y’all think and if I should make any changes. https://youtu.be/UAZZvY5Ynvk?si=Oj9Ut8VP8LylhGs7

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i oppose it for one reason it creates more q, more qs mean fewer people in each q mean longer wait time

if we have maps only italy can fight and only germany can fight those are qs that fewer people can participate in.

its a cool idea but we already have more qs than we can deal with people are asking for -+0 matchmaking you realize we have more qs than world of tanks with a fraction of the playerbase. yes 10 brs ww2 3 modern warfare but they have -+2 and all factions play together so fewer qs.

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So what if we held off that part? Is it a good concept? Because I was honestly saying that because 1. I hate Normandy and 2. It would be weird seeing Italian soldiers as in plasces like Normandy

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If thw battle of Sicily does get added then it should count as an normandy front (Since it was an naval landing). Then we get some more Italian drip!
(Also hope it gets to ten likes, need more NIEM lore)

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look i love subfaction , but enlisted is too compartmentalized as is, allowing sub faction to fight by themselves is a bit much

brain blast, just have units cosplay as either nation, unit fighting in winter fights in winter gear, unit fights in italy only battle they do it dressed as itallian. no itallians fighting in normandy or germans fighting in sis-aly that is how i think they pronounce it even if it is spell Sicily . requires no changes by the player dont know if they have implimented it yet i think it was in the planning stage. it would allow things like battle that had no german or battles without americans.

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I said “what if we cut that part out”

What if we let the Italians fight on all the same maps as the Germans? That is, Italians in Moscow, Rizev and the Bulge, where in real life they did not participate, We’ve had this for years, the only difference is that we would have an Italian tech tree, but first we need to balance the nations we have in the game.

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about that…

A group of German prisoners captured in Normandy disembark from a train at Kempon Park station in England. Among them is an Italian.

Prisoners captured by the English in the Sword Beach sector on the morning of 6 June 1944. Several of them are Italian
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A long line of German prisoners captured after the surrender of Cherbourg in the summer of 1944, is escorted by American soldiers. Among them an Italian

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Normandy June 6, 1944, captured Italians and Germans were then transferred to the USS Texas which was stationed offshore.

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i would love that, no i would as long as they only fight together it changes nothing as far as qs
it would also declutter the us and german tech trees if you included uk
as long as uk italy did not take there weapons and keep there allies as some have suggested, no not pointing at you just others
like martha said thats a good thing
yeah i would love uk and italy to get more love and respect

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Yeah so take my whole concept and just remove them having their own fights

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again you could do it if it was just a cosmetic over-ride, which would fit well seeing soldiers in snow in shorts is almost bad as italians in normandy
but i wont fight you on it

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Thank you.

NGL thought that beeping was at my home…

Nice idea. Ideally, this should be the way they implement subfactions (UK included), however with the devs history, I think this is above their level. I still support this idea though.

I’m still trying to decide on whether to make a video explaining my idea or not.

PS: Kalash_Gaming is my youtube alias if you’re wondering who it was.

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It turned out to be my dads coffee machine again

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If they lock the fuck in, and stop adding stuff no one wants (except actual retards), then i think it’s possible!

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It has been leaked that this has to be stated on your resume to be employed by Gaijin.

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Im open to this idea but as @Kriegerfaust007-live said make everyone actually auto swap uniforms (and potentially voicelines) when necessary so we dont have Italians in Normandy or Germans in Sicily.

From memory most places the Italians fought the Germans did as well. (usually the Italians were losing so theyd have to call Papa Adolf to come help).

For instance Greece, started as an Italian invasion but then the Germans came.

@Patton1998 Thank you for sharing, very valid argument. The problem is that Enlisted has entire squads so its not just an Italian here and there its like half the Axis team are Italians in Italian uniforms.

I guess it would be okay as long as they auto receive standard Wehrmacht uniforms. After all, there were Czechs and other conscripted nationalities on D Day (there’s a scene referencing this in Saving Private Ryan)

@SdKfz173DW-live Not sure if I can watch the video with this tab open so Ill see that and maybe comment again but overall I do want to see Italy added either as its own faction or as a proper sub-faction within an Axis tree.

I have previously suggested foldered trees so when you choose AXIS youd have an option of clicking on German tech tree, Italian tech tree, Finnish tech tree for example and when you click on those you get the standard style tech tree like we have now.

Because they are all under the Axis faction it would be fine imo to have smaller tech trees for categorisation and national purposes.

Otherwise Italy as its own faction, but include minor Axis powers as sub factions like the above method.
Finland, Hungary, Romania, Croatia, Slovakia. (or they could just include any interesting weapons from these countries attached to national squads of said country so the Kiraly SMG for instance would unlock a Hungarian uniformed assaulter squad)

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They pretty much already do this in game for the Italians

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Can’t wait for the Axis Italy and Allies Italy

Okay so watched most of your video. We seem to be on the same page. I would just have though as I said a ‘copy paste’ of the Axis tech tree except that its all Italian (or other Axis nation) weapons. Rather than the system you suggest in the video.

Hopefully thats clear, its basically just two tech trees as they are now, including squad and weapon upgrades but they are both categorised under an AXIS faction.

Change nationality for the minor nations such as Romania is a good idea. I guess it depends on whether they want to do a mini tech tree for the other nations.

For the Allies I definitely think some other tech trees are in order.

ALLIES

USA (basically current tech tree)

UK + Commonwealth

Or Commonwealth as a separate mini tech tree.*

France

Poland

Greece + Yugoslavia

Netherlands + Belgium.

China? (I only added since we do have a couple of Chinese squads in the Allied tree atm but until we get proper Sino-Japanese War maps they are a strange addition when we only have one Burma map. All other maps I would suggest they just get American uniforms and can be Chinese-Americans, likewise standard British uniforms representing like Singaporean soldiers or Australians of Chinese heritage etc.)

*The main thing with Commonwealth is a national flag option to auto change uniforms and various customisation options. So I would envisage a standard British assaulter squad with Sten guns and then you could just choose to equip them with Owen guns, click the Australian flag and now you have an Australian Army squad. Similarily for any British squad just click a Canadian flag, New Zealand, British India etc. for the different uniform options. British Indian option would also randomly add in Indian soldiers.

AXIS

Germany (basically current tree)

Italy

Other Axis Nations (the most appropriate idea is probably to just have all the other nations together and players can just choose to have an all-Romanian lineup for example or have like a German, Italian, Romanian and Hungarian squad for instance.)

In this way we could add all the necessary and interesting nations.

In regards to maps well weve covered that, add more unique maps anyway and just have uniforms swap to the appropriate nation where applicable.

I am confident this system would attract a lot more players to the game and then hopefully we could one day see more nation specific battles like only Italians in the Battle for Sicily or only British and Commonwealth in Malaya etc.

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