News about PPSDH and PPsh silenced

Hello, dear sir,
got some more information about misterious PPsh silenced and a new hero - a PDSH. Wondering - what it could be? Lets take a look at some research.


And now about another invention of the staff of the special workshop and other equally talented gunsmiths. The initiative was given by State Security Major P.I. Zuev on December 18, 1941, an oral order to begin "work on the manufacture of the first sample of a PPSh-type submachine gun. This was caused by an acute shortage in the warehouses of the school of domestic automata. As a result, the soldiers of the special school went on missions behind enemy lines armed only with rifles, which potentially made them vulnerable during fire fights with groups of enemy machine gunners.

Work began on the same day, December 18. So, in the end, through collective efforts, the famous creation of Georgy Semenovich Shpagin, the PPSh-41 submachine gun, was born -

created through “constructive changes and simplification”

a new unique submachine gun, the PDSH, which stands for “Partisan and sabotage school.” Already in the same December, the first two copies were produced. And mass production began at the end of January 1942, that is, after the major of the State Security P.I. Zuev managed to “knock out” through the leadership of the regional NKVD for the needs of the school and deliver “the minimum necessary equipment.”

The Kulibins from the special workshop conquered the next peak of their weapons skills in the spring of forty-two - they "completed the construction of a small submachine gun of the Mauser pistol type in a wooden block [correctly, a holster] weighing 2.5 kilograms.

As a result of the well-coordinated and friendly work of the workshop team under the direct supervision of the GB [State Security] Major T. The Zueva partisan detachments formed by the school [as of May 1942] are fully equipped with automatic weapons of their own manufacture." And now every new sabotage and partisan detachment formed at the school from former cadets received not one or two machine guns, as before, but from three to eight. Source: TSAMO: F.4611, op.5, D.2, ll.46-47

Unfortunately, it is not known exactly how many PDSH submachine guns and Mauser K 96 pistols converted into mini-submachine guns were produced, but they clearly counted in the tens and hundreds. So far, alas, it has not been possible to find copies of these rare samples of domestic military firearms in museum collections. But the research work in this direction by interested historians of the special services continues, which, in turn, cannot but inspire hope for success. And on January 8, 1942, five “devices for silent shooting” were tested at the NKVD special demolition school in Moscow and the Moscow Region. But on January 7, without waiting for the results of those tests, the chekist officer P.N. Zuyev made a written request to the top officials of the 2nd (leadership of partisan formations) department of the 4th (frontline work - intelligence, sabotage and terror behind enemy lines) department of the regional NKVD about “how many of these 5 devices you can put the 6th set into service.” Source: TSAMO: F.4611, op.5, D.2, ll.21

Unfortunately, it is still unknown what these models of silencers were and how they were used by the fighters of the sixth edition of the special school.

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A very interesting research. Ideally, it would be beneficial to find an official photo of the PPSh from those years with a silencer.

m712 at our home?

I wouldn’t be surprised if the Soviets get their hands on the new Automausers before the Germans.

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Ivan is too late, sorry.

I know, its even in game - just give it to sabotage squad, from Jurgen to Ivan

Njet, towarisch. Ivan does not need old fashioned german handgun. Just some vodka, bacon, some friends and a table to make better automatic weapons for themselves. Even silencers so good, that they do not even need trials.

Jürgen can keep his expensive, overengineered pistol! Ivan would craft his own much better firearm - like khyber pass AKs but PPSHs made in the woods.

Maybe axis don’t need a PPSh obrez in this case? Oh, they have

Also



The M712 of the spy Artur Matveevich Baevsky is kept in the funds of Victory museum. This is an original sample produced at the Oberdorf-on-Neckar factory with the factory number 6952. In the interwar years, the USSR purchased about 30,000 Mausers from the Weimar Republic.

So, yes, soviets do have a 712 model, not a field modification. The vanilla too

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Nein! Nein! Nein! Nein! Nein! Nein! Nein! Nein!

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JUST GIVE ME FKN M712!!! I NEED IT!!!

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And 712 is well known owned as hand gun by soviet officers, here is a one of many proofs.

So Jurgen can have some sosages with the pfeiffer and leave 712 properly owned by Soviets

Yes, there is one “Obrez” in my inventory. Upgraded to 3 stars, one clip fired on testing ground, never used again. You can have it, as you seem to like it way more than do. :slight_smile:

The automatic broomhandle is my favorite sidearm and always somewhere in my lineup, i would love to have more than just one.
But i’m fine with keeping it rare, special - and exclusively for. Germany. :slight_smile:
So, keep your handy away from my handsome Mauser pistol or ‘Ruki wwerch!’ .

Best regards!

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