Yes i know but i had to put one for the communist forces so there is balance between nationalist and communist Chinese equipment so all China can be properly represented
why though? the CCP, despite what they want to say, didn’t exactly help during the second sino japanese war. most of the work was done by the ROC whom the CCP blamed for any civilian causalities in an attempt to get more recruits for the civil war that was on hold
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My friend you really don’t understand communism if you wanna sell in China the party must be represented the other option is to paint some CCP emblems on T26 or BT -5
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There is also one really cool Chinese Renault ZB that i would like to see
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“Italian type” gas mask, used by the Chinese Nationalist Army from 1932-33 until the end of the 1940s.
The mask was produced by Pirelli on commission specifically for China, in fact the size marking is in Chinese (the one in the photo is a large size). Being such an early military respirator, it has many archaic features: the connection is 30mm instead of 40, the glasses are smaller than the usual Italian ones, the rubber is knurled like on the Penna (issued to Italy in 1928) and the valves are of the VD25 type like on the PC30 and Pr.C.33. The filter is a classic Dirin 500 in shape, but it is the only version ever produced for military purposes.
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oh no i do, i also know they don’t want any other china to be represented especially the RoC so showing the RoC in any meaningful form would get this game ban like HoI was/is (i am not sure about hoi in china at this current time) but i am also less keen on chinese players since they have a culture that values getting ahead by any means necessary which does include cheating
Just give them the logo or one vehicle and don’t bother with them its that easy xD
I’d love some big Dao for their event swords.
Additionally, they should definitely have some type of Automatic C96 (The Spanish copies were actually the first full auto ones) either home-grown or import as their starting SMG.
I’d love to see China make it into the game, in my view the only problem with China is that they would exclusively match up against a faction that is already underplayed. The unfortunate reality is that there aren’t enough players for them to match against, and in all likelihood there wouldn’t be enough people to play them either.
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Well they can be reskinned soviet faction for a specific campaign but then will be to many equipment that simply wont fit like Migs and t-70 in the Battle of Nanking there was a lot USSR equipment used
If I may add to this…
Uniforms
Weapons and Equipment
Pistols
Colt New Service
One of several firearms provided by American through independent sales and lend-lease. This 6 round revolver chambered .45 ACP and was a standard model for the KMT officers. It had seen combat alongside the combat officers in the battlefield of Shanghai, being known more as a reliable sidearm than a symbol of distinction.
FN 1900
FN M1900, an imported and locally produced pistol with license from Belgian FN. Holding 7+1 rounds of 7.65×17mm .32ACP pistol cartridge, this Shanghai or Nanking-made pistol was produced for the KMT officers as sidearms. It was obsolete when the war was broken out.
Shanxi Type 17
How do you improve on the already large Mauser C96? You make it even bigger! This Mauser copy could hold ten 11.43×23mm .45 ACP rounds in it’s internal magazine. While this extremely trusty firearm was famed for it’s stopping power, it had one major setback; heavy recoil, making it difficult to control.
Rifles
Type 81 Short Rifle
These carbines included a mixture of features from rifles such as the Vz. 24 and Arisaka Type 38 rifles. Produced by the Chinese communists, around 8,700 of these 6.5x50 mmSR rifles were made in total, and the model was the largest number produced in the communist arsenals during the war.
M1 Carbine
M1 Carbine, it was also the service rifle for the Chinese Expeditionary Force in India and Burma. Provided through American lend-lease, these rifles carried 15 rounds of 7.62 x 33 mm cartridge in detachable box magazines. Its light weight, high ammo capacity and ability to provide close range firing cover made the weapon a favorite among Chinese soldiers.
Bolt-Action M1 Carbine
A locally produced bolt-action version of the M1 carbine. Identical in all regards other than the M1 Carbine.
Submachine Guns
STEN Mk II
Used primarily by the Chinese Expeditionary Force, Canada provided some 70,000 STENs Mk II’s to Nationalist forces. Holding 32 rounds of 9 x 19 mm pistol cartridges and firing up to 550 rpm, this compact and easy-to-use SMG was used to provide soke
much needed suppressive firepower.
STEN Mk II (7.62)
A STEN Mk II modified to accept 35 round 7.65x25mm PPS-43 magasines. Modifications done sometime around 1945, out of necessity due to lack of 9mm ammo.
MP-28 (7.65 MM) / SIG 1920
As previously stated, the MP-28 was the most common SMG in China at the time, many being Swiss copies imported under the name SIG Bergman M1920. It is chambered in the 7.65×21mm Parabellum cartridge.
This gun is also in the Japanese tree, however it is clearly a Chinese weapon. Japan had a few MP-28s in service, however they were chambered in the 7.63mm standard navy pistol cartridge. Some Chinese weapons were also captured and pushed into Japanese service, so I assume that is why it is in the Japanese tech tree.
UD M42
These American made 9mm SMGs were sent to partisan forces in Europe and Asia. They saw widespread use among Chinese Communist guerrilla forces.
Thompson M21/28 (7.62 MM)
A weapon built out of necessity, this Tommy gun was converted in 1945 to accept 35 round 7.62x25 Tokarev PPS magazines provided by the Soviet Union.
Thompson M21/28
Thompson M21/28 with a 50 or 100 round drum magazine.
Light Machine Guns
SIG KE7
It’s in the Japanese tree, but it is a Chinese weapon. This Swiss-made machine gun manufactured by the Sichuan warlords. Carrying 25 rounds of 7.92 Mauser cartridge and firing up to 550 rpm, because of its simplicity and low manufacturing requirement, it was produced locally and 6000 of this were made. Roughly an analog to the American BAR.
FN Model 1930
With some models later being captured from Chinese fighters and pushed into Japanese service, this variant of the BAR served in China with the KMT nationalists, carrying 20 rounds of 7.92 Mauser cartridge and firing at 550–650 rpm.
Maxim–Tokarev M1925
This belt-fed machine gun was a Russian attempt to turn the Maxim M1910 into an LMG. Outdated and replaced in Russia by the time of WW2, and in fact never saw Russian service during the war, however it was provided to both Spanish and Chinese forces through various Soviet Aid Programs.
Heavy Weapons
Jingal Gun
Old .60 or .75 caliber single-shot wall guns from the 1800s pressed into service as emergency AT weapons. Supposedly they could penetrate up to 40mm of armor.
Unique Equipment
Type 39 Grenade
A Chinese copy of the German M24 Stielhandgranate, but with a shorter handle for reduced weight and easier manufacturing.
Dadao
Chinese broadsword. Saw widespread use. Roughly equivalent of Japanese shin gunto.
Buildable weapons
Type 24 MG - MG Nest
Chinese built Maxim. Roughly identical to the Soviet Maxim MG Nests.
Vickers .50 HMG - High Caliber MG Nest
British lend-lease 12.7×80mm Vickers machine gun. Intended primarily as a naval AA gun, was used on a tripod mound for Anti-Tank and Anti-Infantry purposes by Chinese forces.
Type 30 AT gun - Anti-Tank Cannon
A Chinese copy of the German PaK-36. Lower projectile diameter than the Japanese Type 1 cannon, but a faster fire rate.
Madsen 20mm AA Cannon M/38 - AA Polsten
Danish 20mm AA cannon with a 15 round magazine and moderate rate of fire. Several units were sold to the Chinese National Army in the 1930s and 1940s, and at least five units were reverse engineered and produced locally.
Vehicles
Ground Vehicles
Renault FT
A French made tank from tue Great War, armed with a 37mm Infantry Gun “Sogekiho”. 16/16/16 armor layout on the hull and 22/22/16 on the turret. 7 km/h max speed, with 39 hp engine. Well outdated by the time of Ww2, but still in use and a reasonable peer to the Ha-Go.
Vickers 6-ton
T-26 was a Soviet built tank based off the British Vickers 6-ton. China operated both, so I think choosing the Vickers would add a little more variety and uniqueness. The main difference would be it being armed with British weapons instead of Soviet. 47mm cannon and coaxial MG. 15/15/6 hull armor layout, and 15/15/15 on the turret. Max speed 30 km/h with 77 hp engine.
Chi Ha Kai
Both KMT and Communist Chinese forces captured a significant number of Japanese Chi Ha tanks. It would be a good addition to a Chinese tree, and while we’re at it add it to the Japanese tree as well (please).
M10 GMC (Type 91)
Chinese M10 tank destroyer with a Japanese 105mm Type 91 field gun installed in the turret. A slot was cut in the front turret as well for a bow MG, and a roof placed over the turret. 51/25/25 hull armor layout, and 57/25/25 for the turret. 41 km/h max speed, with 329 hp engine.
M4A4 Sherman
American lend-lease medium tank. 75mm M3 cannon with coaxial MG, and roof mounted .50 cal. 50/38/38 hull armor layout, ans 76/50/50 for the turret. 38 km/h max speed, with 400 hp engine.
Gongchen SPG
An SPG built off of a captured Japanese Chi Ha (Gongchen being the designation for Chi Ha tanks in Chinese service). Armed with a 75mm Type 94 Mountain Gun, the turret can only move about 20° in either direction. 25/25/20 hull armor layout, unknown turret armor but potentially 12/12/12 or 15/15/15. 31 km/h top speed, with 170 ho engine.
Attacker Aircraft
V-11
American built strike craft armed with 4x forward firing Browning .30 cals, as well as 2x rear facing .30 cal dorsal turret and a payload of 2x250 lbs bombs. 370 km/h max speed, with 727 hp
Fighter Aircraft
I-153 M-62
Russian made aircraft used by the Chinese Air Force. Armed with 4 × 7.62 mm ShKAS MGs and 8 x 82mm RS-82 rockets. Max speed 444 km/h with 801 hp.
Chu XP
Experimental Chinese aircraft armed with 4x20mm Hispanos and 1x250 lbs bomb. Max speed 505 km/h with 1200 hp.
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If they added the Korean War as a “campaign” then China could also go up against America, although that’s only if we’d actually want to advance beyond being purely a WW2 shooter.
The KMT had much more support from Germany pre-1938, and America during the actual war. They really did most of the heavy lifting, and honestly it would make more sense to make them an Allied sub-tree (as long as your okay giving them Chinese MP-18s and Mausers) and it’d be cool to see them fighting in Burma.
The CCP were supported by both the US and USSR, so I could see them being a Soviet sub-tree for like a Hundred-Regiments Offensive campaign. That’d be cool too (Although maybe a bit weird to see the Chinese Eighth Route Army fighting in Berlin).
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Not the point but okay I guess.
My mistake, I thought you were talking about China as a sub-tree. Perhaps I misunderstood.
There was the CCP’s Hundred Regiments Offensive, which could make for a cool campaign. Hilly railroads and rural train depots to contrast the urban fighting of the ROC in Shanghai or Nanjing.
Internal strife is an integral part of Chinese culture
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here are some more chinese ww2 equipment, i think china could potentially reach br5 if we add the sichuan sig ke7 as BR5 rifle, some american aircraft, type 30 MG as BR5 MG and meaby pershing (meaby bit too fantasy but thats the only option)
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