Nerf the Winchester 1866's firerate

The firerate of the Winchester 1866 is ridiculous, it actually rivals the M1 and M1A1 Carbines, it’s practically a semi-auto. It’s very much jarring to see your character cycling it so fast, the firerate should realistically be somewhere in between the Winchester 1895 and Lee-Enfields. At least in my opinion.

It also seems like the game classifies it as a semi-auto. Normally with manual weapons if you hold the fire key, the cycling animation won’t play until you release the button. But with this one and some “single action” revolvers that doesn’t happen, meaning they’re practically just semi-auto’s.
So all in all this is rather silly, which is a shame because I love lever action guns in general, both in game and IRL.

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Is it just me or this new Winchester rifle is super inaccurate?

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3 shot for 1kill. slow bullet speed and very very slow reload :unamused:

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Then maybe the damage should be buffed, rather than giving the guy using it super-human speed

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I just watched some vids, seems like you can shoot it pretty damn fast if you know how and want to.

No issue.

shooting so quickly was quite possible

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I would have no problem if it was that speed, because that would be a lot slower than what it is in game. In the game it seems like your character doesn’t even wait for the hammer to fall before cycling.
That video is basically:
Bang, cycle, bang, cycle
In the game it’s:
Bacycle, bacycle, bacycle

The .44 Henry cartridge is only about 35mm long, so much easier and faster to cycle with this action than the 1895 full rifle cartridge at 57mm - ie you get much better mechanical advantage from cycling the trigger guard

See also https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6w7FpEm8C34 from 7.20 and shooting from 9.0

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It’s still way too fast in the game, as it stands it’s not a manual gun, it’s semi-auto

It is a manual gun that shoots as fast as some semi-auto’s - get over it.

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So what is the real complaint here? Is it really a limited edition BR1 shoots too fast thread?

Cons
Reload speed is BR1 grade trash
Damage per shot is BR1 grade trash

This gun satisfies fun for all BRs so it leads me to believe the OP got wrecked by this thing :partying_face:

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My issue is less the RoF than the fact that it seems… half animated. Maybe that’s because of the RoF, but it doesn’t even look like the character works the action, at all.

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SO many many many many guns in the game are half animated, dont worry too much, one day people will get to fixing it.

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Well, there are “THREE” level one semi auto rifles, and the other two shoot “TWICE” as fast and have over “TWICE” the mag size as the Winchester, but I hear no one complaining about them. :joy: I am going to call them all semi auto’s for the sake of argument. Yes, the Winchester hits harder, but shoots less then half the amount of rounds at half the speed, not to mention that the Winchester takes almost “THREE” times as long to reload as the other two rifles

There are no apples to oranges comparisons in Enlisted, but IMOP there is no problem with this being a level one gun, and at it’s current specs. I would personally increase the Winchester to 12 hitting power, and the Beretta and KB to 10.

IMOP the KB is the best of the three because I have and use all three, however I use the KB at level two, but this does not mean I am on here clamoring for it to be moved to level two.
Level one Winchester 1866
Level one KB-P-135
Level one Beretta 1918 30

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Ah yes, always go for the ad hominem, never fails to make you look like a dick.
It couldn’t be that I’m a massive guntist, no, I have to suck or something

That’s because he does it so fast and he does it almost simultaneously with the trigger pull

Well the other two semi autos are shooting 9mm and 7.62 TT… 10 damage seams a bit wild of a MP40 and PPSH in semi auto

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Ok but then buff it’s reload speed, accuracy and dispersion and place it at BR2. Actually don’t touch rof.

with the Jet Power Update this is also getting down to BR I
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