Nerf damage of Fedorov Avtomat

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yes, there are a lot of pearls, so we need to remove them (sarcasm)

this is just ridiculous, especially considering its accuracy and meta on that battle rating (how often does anyone even see it in random fights? it seems to me that I have seen the snail ppd more often than just the pca)

He didn’t get as good as you describe him, he’s just another assault rifle, and the chip in his squad, although it doesn’t really help me if I get on city maps, in those conditions even just a standard gray German uniform will be more useful than camouflage

the Germans and the United States also have 2 of them, and besides, they have unique weapons, and the Soviet ability to choose equipment looks like laziness of developers rather than a cool fish

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but since this is the case, I would also like to remember about the pearls of other nations
germany
tiger 2 H, Kenders machine gun (well, we remember the limited promotional units so I’ll remember those that were for gold applications), mg 42 100, sniper stg \ mkb, just stg, BredaPG (CR), FG 42 1\2\sniper,Suomi KP/-31 (yes prem, but it’s like pshh only without excessive rate of fire and with higher accuracy), Pz w 42
USA
Meteor F. Mk3, F80A5, P47D28(this is also a stormtrooper so it doesn’t take up the jet fighter slot), Stinger machine gun, M4A3E2, T20, Hyde M1944, M26 T99 (literally a party to win, it’s very good), Vickers Mk. 1 No2 (after the recent patch, it became very popular even good),
Japan
Automatic rifle type hey, HO-RI
and all, they are all sad, although the Tokyo Arsenal and the type 100 machine gun are fun in terms of playing with them, but it’s hard for me to call them gems, for their effective use you need to put more effort than it may seem

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and to be honest, your statement seems to make sense, but

  • to consider it in a vacuum is not correct because inferior Soviet equipment and aircraft compared to German equalize the chances
  • gems are not meta
  • despite the above advantages of the Soviets, I still regularly manage to lose matches and neither the fantastic +10 hp, nor the impossible AS 44 and Fedorov automat save me (the largest number that they can be taken on a squad is 6 pieces from one squad of assault engineers, and FG 42 2 can be 9 pieces + several of these even so I do not recall that any of the advantages I mentioned would give me an easy victory or an instant defeat)
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still superior to anything that Germany has in a TT, you can have 6x of them as Guerillas, as a tanker, plane pilot or in APC (x2) what Germany has? Yeah nothing at BR5 unless you are veteran like me with MP717(r) otherwise it’s Kiraly all day long of BR4

it’s the best AR in the game right after buffed Fedorov. Soviet bias at it’s finest

and all their guns suck when compared to 6x Fedorov/AS-44, ofc it’s laziness we talk about DF. How cute how you ignored NKVD Thompson, Body armor, Fedorov MG,Fedorov rifle (of BR5) that can 1hk at 400m i guess you love your Soviet bias as having advantage in 80% of the unlocks is just fine and normal but Germans having one great thing Holy Jesus give me Holy water against that demon spawn we have exorcise that instantly mr dev.

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Unlike you I have no problem playing and winning against all this Russian bias

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and because of this, all I want is for the developers to leave the identity of the factions, that is, they didn’t do what you suggest for the deterioration of the already not-so-best weapons or vice versa of the only meta from the Soviets, and the Germans definitely don’t need regular improvements to the existing weapons, I only play in meta and somehow my the percentage of victories for the Germans is higher than for the Soviets, and if you look at the Japanese, then this is generally a nightmare? If so, then maybe you need to remove content from the Japanese? 80% of the winning percentage is clearly due to the automatic type hey in conjunction with the type 100 machine gun and HO-RI production, which I don’t even use!

In short your judgments about the Russian bias are not objective and do not reflect reality

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I am Russian and there is 100% Russian bias in this game as it has more bullshit than anyone else, even though as anyone could confirm I don’t care about faction bias at all:

  1. Exclusive 10% body armor is bullshit
  2. SU-9 from 1946 is bullshit
  3. Fedorov Avtomat was a flimsy WW1 crazy recoil thingy, not proto AK
  4. AS-44 second AR, fake bullshit
  5. Fedorov MG was never godly like that, bullshit
  6. Fedorov SLR from 1912 on BR2 in TT lol
  7. Fedorov Rifle (event) has fake 3-round burst
  8. T-34-100 is a wunderwaffe that never left testing
  9. “Unique mechanic” paratroopers who can be BR 1-5 without any lock
  10. GAZ-AAA drives like a silent Ford Mondeo
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My WR is almost identical on Soviet side and KDR is better on Soviets (for you too as their weapons are objectively superior) and almost as great as on the JP side

While in reality they are superior in every single way and only got stronger this patch with Uragan SMG + Fedorov Rifle with both being vastly superior to anything that German has at BR2, even biggest complaint of MG being weak got tweaked and Madsen is now more comparable to MG13, PZ3N got taken out so Soviets are now completely superior, even Puma is worse than BT-7A.

So that they could have total superiority and competent player like me could win almost every match? After what they’ve done to Soviets and Americans they need to not just buff existing weapons (MP40+M38/42 with realistic 550rof+430m/s, FNAB with 700 rof) but also bring multiple BR3 smgs like ZK-383, MP35/l (two of them are already in BR2), Beretta M38A 40r to BR2 and give them better semi auto at BR2.

maybe because you are a mediocre player, it’s fine to admit that you get carried by way better players than you are

You don’t use them but most decicated tryhard players are using them, JP population is tiny when compared to German army that get’s punished at every occasion

oh really?
No matter the BR you have some weird weapons they should have never be added plus 10% body armor bias that only you and japan has

  • Best smg in the game at BR3/4/5 - PPSh-41 box with broken recoil, PPD-Bramit for Guerillas, NKVD Thompson and PPSh-41 drum
  • The best BR2 smgs with insane rof and low recoil
  • RPK1943 which is pretty much BAR at BR2
  • Winchester best fast firing rifle at BR2
  • Fedorov Rifle x2 which are the best rifles at BR2 and BR5 (can kill people with 10hp at distance of 400m LMAO) - 3 round burst is a made up bs
  • Can still use Breda at BR2 so complaint about bad lmg are invalid (plus Madsen got massive buff)
  • T-28E + BT-7A = best tank combo at BR2 and much better than mediocre slow Puma + nothing as PZ3N got taken out (f2p) or PZ3N Stalingrad with unreliable HEAT rounds
  • T-34 STZ + KV-1 = best tank combo at BR3
  • Su-9 is much better than ME262 at BR5 (it’s a plane from 1946 so nice historical accuracy)
  • Multiple rocket planes all around the TT
  • Fedorov Avtomat + AT-44 are now the best ARs of the game, plus Avtomat was also much weaker and there were none of them left by 1942 so having them in 1943-1945 is just stupid
  • AS-44 had only 5 real prototypes so why it’s in a TT?
  • Fedorov MG was much weaker irl
  • SVT-38 at BR3 while Germany has crappy G41 with 4.8sec reload, Sniper SVT-38 at BR3 and Germany has zero semi auto snipers till BR4
  • You have German and American rocket launchers all around the TT plus German pistol
  • Drum 71 round smg at BR3
  • RMN-50 - as only one nade launcher that was not nerfed (peak soviet bias)
  • Paratroopers x2 with switchable loadout so you can play at BR1-5
  • Fast premium American half track that Americans can’t even have lol
  • RD-44 which is pretty much AR with 100 rounds, same can be said about LAD
  • PPK-42 which is yet another very powerful smg squad that got buffed
  • Yak-9k that can shred King Tiger in a single strafe (it’s a BR3 plane)
  • Drum PPSh-45 drum at BR4
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I pay my respects to your skill, the K\D is really impressive

it looks like a conspiracy, it seems as if the Soviets should win every battle in general if you don’t look everywhere they have the best in all respects, I’m just waiting for the developers to remove the bonus from the cuirasses or give these cuirasses to everyone, regarding other claims, it’s also very strange, it turns out that the game has become good you need to remove everything The Soviets have all of the above, leaving them without a single competitively capable tank, jet fighter, or Fedorovs, which is essentially one of the main gems that’s why I started playing this game at all. this is the only game where this rifle is available and the game itself is still supported. in addition, the claims about parachutists are also not clear, what do you propose to do with them? Make them a fixed weapon? yes please, just something as effective as fg 42 or automatic hay

I have long been lost in all these unfair balance characteristics and I don’t understand why they are only seen by a dozen people from the entire forum

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The reason why the AS44 and STG44 are bad is the same. They usually require 2 to 3 bullets to knock down an enemy, and then 2 more bullets to finish off a downed enemy. When facing multiple targets, the BTK (bullets to kill) is astonishingly high, making it very difficult to take out an entire squad with them. In contrast, the Fedorov rifle can directly kill an enemy with 2 bullets without knocking them down. Even before its damage buff, the Fedorov was already far superior to other assault rifles. Although the Fedorov now has 13.9 damage, it’s not overly OP. The current T0 (top-tier) weapon in the game is still the battle rifle FG42-2, and Type Hei and T20 remain far superior to it.

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I don’t see how this justifies anything. Fedorov is simply too strong to be AR, it’s league ahead of other guns in this class.
What you describe is ARs being weaker than SF rifles and this is a completely separate issue.

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say what now…

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Fedorov should move from AR to SF. It is the most classic SF. This is not a question worthy of discussion.

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So the issue is that ARs and SMGs are generally bad in BRV. What should be addressed is enhancing other ARs and finding ways to balance the two weapon types, rather than taking the only AR that’s somewhat usable and throwing it into the SF rifle category.

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…Because it basically is SF. There is less damage differnece between fedorov and FG42 (~0.4dmg) than between FG42 and AVT (~0.7dmg) (values for not upraded guns).
Yes, ARs should be more competetive in comparison to SFs. But not by making them SFs.

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In reality, the muzzle energy of the Fedorov Avtomat is much lower than that of the AS44 firing M43 rounds. Its caliber is also much smaller. It fires 6.5×50mm ammunition but with a muzzle velocity of only 654 m/s and a kinetic energy of just 1925 joules. I think it’s reasonable to buff the damage of other ARs, for example, increasing the damage of the AS44 and STG to 11 so they can achieve a two-shot direct kill.

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So it’s damage should be decreased so it’s not on pair with full rifle bullet. I’m glad we agree.

That’s not what we discuss here. Make your own topic if you want.

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I did not stutter, soviet airforce is subpar compared to US & Germany. The gap is significant but serviceable. I’m OK with this because soviet infantry diversity and tanks make up for it. Likewise, the US air makes up for the shit tanks. rock, paper, scissors balance :slight_smile:

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While Germany has not a single weapon that has such power with accuracy as Fedorov (especially Fed MG). FG42 II is just pathetic with it’s 14.4 dmg it can never kill soviets in single hit. At BR5 they will all run with their overpowered body armor. MG42 100 is even crappier just 13.2 dmg and as always you will have bad dispersion and recoil unless you use wonky bipod.

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your win % shows clearly player base is a major factor. It will always be the factor the devs cannot control regardless how weak or powerful a nation is. Great job too!

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