Oh I don’t need to repeat all the good arguments already mentioned by the Op and others.
Afterall, you just ignore them as usual, and throw a tantrum when it’s not going your way.
Imagine. I just came here saying:
“Sure, as one who have many already and KNOW it doesn’t affect balance in any way, I’m fine with others sharing the fun. I won’t change anything in my life.”
Then there’s you getting on your war horse, quite hilariously so, about not wanting others to enjoy it because:
it makes you feel special.
Eheheh keep going, I doubt you will convince many ppl here…
All those “arguments” I counter argued. And so far, none of them have been able to refute my arguments.
Every time they just came up with some made up argument that I didn’t even say. And they tried to refute it. But they didn’t even try to refute my real arguments.
Literally no one ever said that balance was the main issue as to why the weapon shouldn’t have been put in the German tech tree. That would be a completely misguided argument since the gun is already in the game.
And literally no one who is of the idea of against adding the gun to the German tech tree has ever used that argument.
It’s just been brought forward by advocates of the idea, just so they can flat out refute it. And present it as that’s the main argument for why it shouldn’t be added to the German tech tree.
Classic debate foul.
But feel free to use more of personal attacks here, you’re obviously not capable of anything better.
Alright, just one thing, if you are against copypaste, shouldn’t we be getting rid of fausts, obrez for germans, schreck for us ? I mean, it’s only fair then, and will achieve faction exclusivity, albeit I’m not sure what to do with as44, it’s still an stg44 copy statwise, that doesn’t seem fair imho
I’ve heard this argument many times. And I’ve answered the same way every time.
Yes, those weapons should be turned into legacy ones and each faction should get its own unique weapons.
There are numerous posts on this forum about weapons that could replace those copypasted ones.
Ya know… I don’t think there is a whole lot that can replace german fausts or american bazooka in soviet TT, one is lend lease, the other trophy, both makes sense for balance, soviets did have heat AT nades, but those hardly compare with dedicated AT like the aforementioned two, and I don’t think soviets had any AT that was schreck like and used in ww2 sool what do ? I mean, maybe there is a prototype, i do not know, but that feels even less logical or historically accurate, so we come to a deadstop
Its not like the AS-44 isnt just a copy pasted StG44 with a different skin so I dont really see why the Mp717(r) would suddenly destroy all uniqueness of the Soviet faction, though I would prefer to see the Soumi kp-31 with 71 drum mag in the Axis TT instead.
You got that right… It’s worse than panzerfaust, because there are superior options on br5 stg44, mp43, fg42, mg42 100, mg15 l, and soviets in turn, use mostly rd44, at, as44, fedorov, avt…soviets don’t have a panzerfaust alternative, they didn’t produce anything like it, they did trophy them and use them en masse, IT MAKES SENSE for fausts to be present in the TT, just as germans have used trophy weapons…1-2 doesn’t hurt as much as you are making it out
There are many Soviet prototypes that could easily replace pfausts.
And there are some for the Allies as well. Some British AT launchers and M20s with post-war rockets.
And anyway, as far as penetration goes. I don’t see why this particular stat needs to be HA at all costs.
If anything, this stat is the first one that should be changed in favor of gameplay reasons over HA.
It would be much more appropriate if each faction had their own AT stuff. Just like anything else.
Well, this is a point where i disagree quite a bit then, now i don’t have that big of a problem with paper weapons, fedorov and as44 aren’t horrible because they help make the game more balanced, entire soviet teams running around with prototype bazookas that were never used, or were used only ones…starting not from br5 but from br2(because you need to swap out bazooka with something) now that is completely goofy and makes little sense, now don’t get me wrong I’m not entirely a historical accuracy guy, but seriously how does random prototype make more sense than bazookas that were supplied by lend lease or trophy fausts ??
Not that it matters, but I remember a certain someone a few years ago claiming that adding a Tiger II H to the game would be a mistake, and praising the devs for adding a Tiger II P instead as Germanies top rank vehicle.
But they were used m20 bazooka is ww2 weapon. Just its ww2 rockets doesn’t have as much of penetration as post war ones.
But as I have said. It’s quite bizarre how penetration values needs to be HA at all cost (even thou bazookas had wrong values for several years and not many people have noticed).
But whatever. I don’t think AT launchers is topic of this discussion.
Because it’s the prototype of that nation, that’s why.
I really don’t see any real reason why copypasted weapon in the name of HA would be any better.
Especially when HA has only been used recently to justify unpopular changes or keeping unpopular things.
And in all other aspects, no one cares about HA.
(It’s ridiculous that devs added stuff like demon tank or samurai to the game. But m20 with high penetration or G43k with burst mode is huge problem)
