Move G43 to BR 3

After adding overpowered Winchester M1907 and Hino rifle + Type 4 at BR3 they have no excuse anymore to not bring both G43 and ZH-29 to BR3.

Any other move than downtiering them will be now seen as devs, creative guys and CM hating on Germany and wanting them to be the weakest nation in the game. Sounds like a Xenophobia to me.

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thing is once you equip G43 you can be matched against BR 5 players , sadly i would never choose to fight with G43 against BR5 now, there is high end stuff for that purpose

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15.8 vs 15.3 dmg is not a big advantage it’s miniscule and unnoticeable in average match. It doesn’t justify being let alone to rot at BR4 (always uptiers to BR5) and not used by anyone.

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And those weapons are not even cursed by magical dispersion

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idunno man, they have fantastic light machine gun options at every BR, especially when you consider the USSR is basically stuck with the madsen at br2

King tiger is also the best heavy tank IMO, the super pershing has a massive exposed aiming device on its forehead

We need a punching bag for this player base and as some people have already said this is not a competitive game while the Soviets and the allies are laughing somewhere in the background.

And here’s this great legend who said such a thing Allow players to purchase German bulletproof helmets and Japanese bulletproof vests for their soldiers - #21 by NshPPSH

  • Seperate BR 4 from BR 5
  • Make all magazine loaded S-A rifles larger than 5 rounds BR 4 (SVT-38 should have been a stripper-clip loaded rifle from the beginng)
  • Also buff damage of both SVT-38 and G41 to 12.7 because that’s what fully powered SAs should be doing, it’s the standard.
  • Lower reload speed of Pavesi SVT and G41 to a reasonable number.

The G43 is BR 4 material, it’s just that everything else has been so skewed that it looks out of place.

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Oh really? MG13 is bouncing like crazy. And Madsen got a buff so now it’s usable. Soviets also have Breda and RPK so it’s not like they have nothing. I would rather take usable smgs than medicore lmgs, and all of them are mediocre till BR3 (only exception is Hotchkiss).

And where are those fantastic LMGs at BR5??? RD-44 and Stinger are kings of BR5.

King Tiger has weak turret cheeks that explode in a single hit from 90/100mm cannon. And any infantry squad can murder it in 1-3 rockets from the front, with side you can even use tnt it’s that weak.

better idea, buff g41.

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Well I’m glad Germany has this magical tank to defy all logics and it’s not like we’re hiding from anti tank weapons or explosive packs or bombs or rockets.

I do agree that theres definitely not lack of options.
But the fact that bipods are still mediocre at best, the movement penalties and all other crap.
I dont generally see the LMG as anykind of proper tool ingame.

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At this point it’s just a feature because God forbid Germany actually used their main strength and that’s not even talking about how machine gun nest is still broken while the Americans actually work.

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Which are crippled by movement dispersion penalties so only situationally usefull at best until you reach the 100 round ones which get decent at point blank in BR 5.

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Or just give the SVT-38 a stripper clip reload.

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Speaking of MG nests, Soviets also have massive advantage there their HMG is the best in the game. And their “weak useless” Madsen squad can easily build them and win the match.

While Soviets once get their 100 round lmg are playing like having STG44 /w 100 mag

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With para buff (RD-44 from the box) they will become even more overpowered. There will be zero point in playing as Germany anymore.

ok yes The USSR has a ten shot SA BR3, what about the US/UK the Winchester is not tech tree
The only tech tree US/UK SA 10 shot is the Johnson that uses two stripper clips just like the Gewehr 41
now if you want to remove the ability for Germany/Axis to fight US/UK fair enough
but stop acting like Germany only fights Russia
so unless you want to magic the johnson to the johnson r that can reload from a magazine i say no Johnson rifle, feeding from detachable box magazines : r/ForgottenWeapons

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tanks are their own story , also planes

many say that some infantry weapon disadvantage is balanced with better airplane than enemy has at same BR , or better tank

but it doesnt provide a solution for the infantry guy

sure the tank can be very helpful but only if the guy in it knows how to play with it , and is also kinda lucky to survive long enough to provide fire support to make an impact on gameplay

that said infantry in this game cannot rely on tanks or planes since they are used by players who not always do with their vehicles what would be the most beneficial for pushing the objective

for example
why should i be in disadvantage for not be able to use G43 at BR3 just because my faction has better airplane than enemy , when our airplanes pilot is either noob , or cannot do bombing cause it is in dogfight by Indestructible IL-2 ?

also it is infantry that can take over objective point , not a tank and not plane , even when both can contribute to it greatly , that does not justify infantry weapon nerfs for vehicle buffs

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Americans can carry both M1 + Johnson which results in 18 rounds with separate ammo pools. Both weapons are loading much faster than garbage G41. Are we going to ignore that?

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the garand loads faster because it only has 8 rounds and one magazine not ten in two stripper clips, and no the johnson does not load faster than the gewehr 41. and in order for them to do that they have to forsake taking a back pack. if you want to carry two guns find a garand analogue or nerf the gewehr 43 to eight rounds and then move it to br3.