A popular WW1 machinegun that was utilized in WW2. It is fed by fabric belt of 250 round drum. But since there was no good 100-200 round mag lmgs for Germany, so why not add this?
Rank: BR 4-5
ROF: 500 rpm
Magazine: 250 rounds
Reserve 500 rounds
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Honestly, with a 250 belt capacity they probably wouldn’t give you any reserve ammo by default, but to my mind that’s fine because 250 is plenty of ammo. If you stack on an ammo pouch they you’re bringing in 500 rounds total.
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Nice
If it has a 250 round drum and it’s in the tech tree I won’t accept any BR lower than 5 for it. If it wasn’t for the fact that only has a 500 rate of fire I would flat out say this does not need to be a tech tree item.
But a good submission nonetheless, Knowing DF it’s going to wind up being an event weapon. Which is only going to add more insult seeing as if you miss the event you miss an LMG with more than 75 rounds for the Germans.
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I believe 150 round belts were also developed after WW1 and used more commonly in WW2, so that might be a more reasonable option for a tech tree weapon.
EDIT: Actually, I might be wrong. According to this website “A provision was made for introduction of a 100 round ammunition drum to be hung on the side of the receiver. The crew required was reduced from 5 to three with capability for operation by a single gunner.”
Also here “German designers considered the latter point and designed a special “belt drum” magazine that could be mounted to the side and which held a single belt with 100 rounds”
EDIT 2: Also the MG-08/15 used a lighter bolt and than the typical Schloss 08 fixed position MG-08, so it likely would fire up closer to 600 rounds per minute, similar to the Schloss 16 MGs.
That is a WW1 relic, that saw limited use in WW2 by irregular troops like volkstrum, I dont see the need for it, other than a GO weapon. A proper MG34 or 42 with 100+ ammo is all Germany needs and wants.
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No
For an event mg maybe… just like Stinger.
Tech tree does deserve longer belts mg42 &/or mg34, thought. Iconic and all, balance yada yada.
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Historically speaking foot infantry really only used the 50 round drums. The longer magazines were for emplaced guns.
The MG-08/15 is also not really analogous to the Stinger. It’s much more like the Maxim-Tokarev or Browning 1919
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Oh I know, it’s mostly because all other factions got theirs, and it would be nice having those iconic ones with longer belts for axis.
Even if it comes with some mechanics like “you cannot shoot your lmg while moving” or something similar.
Just longer “brrrr”.
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Infantry certainly used long belts.
Long belts were commonly used by infantry both in defense and attack, simply due to the german (or any really) infantry doctrine.
Main purpose of MG is to set up a position and provide support/suppressing fire/fire superiority. The gun is meant to shoot, not reload all the time. No sane person will use total of ~1000 rounds in 50rd belts only for such task, and reload the gun every 30s.
The purpose of 50rd belt was to make it faster to transfer from move to fire and not leave the crew vulnerable. Because unlike in other, older guns that needed to be unloaded before moving, you could have gun always loaded and ready.
At least from what I know.
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Honestly, in general I think hip fire mechanics need an overhaul in general. You should at least slow down like you’re ads
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A bit like for flamethrowers. Cannot move while firing (ohohohoh!) Or at least very slowly 
Or not at all
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Maybe it’s a little nit-picky of me, but all of those guys are after the gun is moved into a firing position. While moving the MG would typically have the 50 round drum, then once a firing position is reached the ammo carrier comes up with the larger belts.
Granted, there isn’t really a way to model this in game. The closest we have is engineers building MG nests, and that’s not really perfect either.
Yeah, if they did that I’d be fine with a 100 round MG-42. As is though fast firing MGs are honestly cancerous CQC machines where gunners run and gun from the hip while zipping around the map. That’s not really how they worked historically, and I don’t think that’s how they should work in game either.
That said, I’d still also like to see the MG-08/15 added to the tech tree as well.
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If there’s a lewis premium, there could be a funny mg08 one as well (or event)
Would be funny, thing is huuuuge!
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I think the MG-81 would be an interesting event reward as a counter for the Stinger. Large belt capacity. 1400 rounds per minute. Aircraft MG occasionally used by ground troops.
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It…
Does make sense!
I didn’t know about that one. As long as axis also gets the 42 or 34 with longer belt in tt, for longer brrr. I suppose even just 100 would suffice (but I hope longer, for longer brrrrr)
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