With the upcoming battle pass season one of the many weapons being added is the Gorov LMG, a pretty neat looking Bren-esc LMG for the Soviets! And one that seems to contain a special feature…
“it’s much more like a semi-automatic rifle. And that’s why you can arm most soldier classes with this machine gun!”
Which means this will be a riflemen weapon with the justification of it being more akin to a semi-rifles performance…
So that begs the question…why isn’t the Lahiti aswell? the pair even shared a magazine, both are automatic LMG gold orders, so why isn’t the Lahiti usable on Riflemen? I request that either the Gorov be moved to MG gunners only to match the other LMG gold orders, or the Lahiti be moved to a riflemen weapon aswell due to itd weak performance, the same justification used by the Gorov
Just a case of being selective about weapon classes. Again.
Lahtis in-game are classified as gunner weapons despite being automatic rifles.
The Gorov LMG uses the same Lahti magazines, but are somehow available to riflemen.
There is literally zero consistency here. It’s especially egregious when you consider that people use the “Well, the BAR was used as an LMG, so it should be a gunner weapon” excuse.
I’m a lil stickler about weapon classification. For example, the Mkb is an Assault rifle and therefore it shouldn’t be available for Engineers. If the Gorov is an intended LMG then it should be for Machine Gunners
What would make you say that
I will just say it’s funny how sometimes weapon classes get convoluted and messy. For example, how do you tell the difference between an LMG and a battle rifle that happens to have a bipod lol
Battle rifles are a category that pretty much only existed after assault rifles were introduced, to distinguish service firearms that still fired full-powered cartridges over ones that fired intermediate ones.
Automatic rifles are just that. Rifles that can be fired in automatic.
LMG is a designation by role. If doctrine (and in the time period) makes a gun suitable for laying down suppressive fire in a more mobile fashion than a fixed emplacement, then it is called such- So you have funni cases of even pistol-caliber weapons being called “machine guns”, especially when the standard arms for a soldier at the time were merely bolt-action rifles.
Gorov is also lighter than Lahti-Saloranta by like 3 kgs (9.3kg on empty unloaded? since on Jaegerplatoon DP-27 is listed as empty unloaded) vs 7.41kg/6.5kg loaded/empty unloaded, and all the MGs that are listed as Gunner weapons so far seemed to share this 9+kg weight value when loaded. Otherwise, lets also make FG42 a machine gun, along with AVT-40 and AVS-36, i definitely wouldnt mind seeing less automatic rifles in the hands of riflemen.
EDIT: yeah, not paying attention to event/premium weapons killed me there, forgot that 7kg Charlton is a MG.
Indeed. I am still of the opinion the AVT-40 was a sneaky inclusion. Being default Automatic should have been Stalingrad Engineers and assaulters only. “default” single fire would have been more consistent.
I know things can get complicated and convoluted and there are a lot of differing factors.
First I would say they should remove the Mkb from Stalingrad Engineers because it is an explicit Assault rifle
For Snipers I understand they gave them scoped Assault rifles so they would have some variety. The question is should Snipers have access to basically all scoped weapons including the few machine guns. Or should should they just have scoped rifles be they bolt, semi, automatic, and assault
Semi-Automatic carbines should just be a universal weapon like the standard rifles so they can be used with Riflemen, AT, Mortars, Engineer, etc. The question is should automatic carbines also be available or should only Assaulters have automatic carbines. Plus there are a handful of scoped carbines, do they go to Snipers then
Automatic rifles are a highly controversial. On one hand it is true that they were generally supposed to be an evolution of the standard rifle for the infantryman, but the various auto rifles don’t necessarily fit into that context. For example, the AVS and BAR are both automatic rifles, but the BAR was pushed into the MG role. Given this game’s system would that mean every single class can use the BAR. Should only Assaulters have automatic rifles. Does that mean the infamous FG42 is only available to Assaulters.And then what do we do with scoped Auto rifles like the AVS and FG42. Do Snipers keep those variants
Also I was just gonna say that I consider the Lahti to be an LMG while the original BAR is an auto rifle
Imo we are slowly approaching a point where we either reclasify guns and make them class secific or make every gun avalable for everybody. Current state is not possible to maintain in the long run.
My proposal of arbitrary classification
BA - everybody
BA with grenade launcher - rifleman (and AT I guess, though personally I don’t like this)
SA rifle - everybody or rifleman only (preffered)
SA carbine / intermediate round - everybody
SMG - assaulter, pilot, tanker
auto carbine / intermediate round <75 rounds- assaulter
auto carbine / intermediate round >75 rounds - gunner
auto rifle caliber - gunner
Quite harsh but imo it would keep good balance between clases while being “HA flawoured”.
