Make special rewards or loot box for winning the game

That’s not what I have said. :man_shrugging: But if the victory bonus worked, we wouldn’t be having this debate. And everyone would have been playing as a team by now. :man_shrugging:

Yeah, team game. When usually you’re playing with people you’ve never had any interaction with in your life. At best, you can coordinate with 3 people out of 9 in your team (If you are in 4 stack)

Team game - That argument would only apply to clan play. Where you know your friends, you train with them, and you have some tactics. And you play only against other clans. That’s where I’d leave the win bonus. Because that’s where winning would really mean something. :man_shrugging:


You just don’t want to be rewarded based on your own performance, you want to be rewarded based on the performance of others. And I don’t agree with it. :man_shrugging:

Im quite sure it works exactly as intended. Winning team gets bonus for theyr effort.

Ok, so winning team should not get bonus because your too shy to use the chat ?
Or because theres no one else doing objective in the team ? Eeeh matchmake ?

Im quite sure we do have 2 teams in each game rather than being deathmatch ?

Idk, works just fine in csgo sure entirely different game but due to my rank I usually get thrown in teams that actually do play for the win. Regardless is there stacks or not.
On my rankless alt, the experience aint much different from current enlisted.

It kind of is the point of team game isnt it ?
Otherwise this would be SP or deathmatch game.

And its quite funny that you moan about people that plays the game as its intended as team, because thats unfair towards you.

But you have no issue being thrown against casuals that according to your words were all inferior to you.
“I just want to sealclub but dont want to receive any”

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Lol… This debate is truly pointless.

No shit ?
Being mad for ppl playing a team game as a team, winning as a team and as a result getting bonus for it.

All while, being “best player in the lobby” and thus should be rewarded for your invidual skill.
Somehow its fine to steamroll casuals as solo but doing it as stack its no no.

And blame all that on winning bonus ? Lol.

Do they? :man_shrugging:

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Like I said. The problem is, that’s not the case. Victory bonus is not functional. Most people don’t play as a team. And removing it wouldn’t change anything in this manner. It would just make it so that nothing punishes good players for poor performance of their team.

I guess ? If you lost to inferior stack of 3 for some other reason perhaps you should try something else than sniper then ?

Functional matchmake ?

I dont really see how keeping it would change anything then either so its fine.

Do solo customs then.

Very constructive argument.

Not possible for current Enlisted. Unless you want teams to not take into account factions and so :man_shrugging:.

Enlisted already has way too complex MM for size of its playerbase.

Doesn’t make any sense.

You clearly don’t know even completely basic informations about the game. You won’t get any exp for solo customs.
So I have no clue how this would solve my issue.

Your arguments doesn’t make sense consistently :man_shrugging:

Im open to other reasons if you know why you lost against inferior players ?
If not due to fact that your enemies were just simply better as team.

And with what logic such as skill based matchmake wouldnt be possible ?

Tell me about it, you lost and are mad because winner got bonus.

Atleast you wont be unfairly treated in team based game as you would be solo.
Which, seemed to be your biggest problem.

:man_shrugging: I already told you why.

You really can’t answer that one yourself?

I understand you can’t be bothered by something like that. Since you wouldn’t be able to get yourself into such situation.

I would be. Because I wouldn’t be getting anything at all. Whereas people who just parasite on their teammates’ performance would be still inappropriately rewarded. :man_shrugging:

No ? I dont know why you lost. I suggested the enemy team to be simply better as team but apparently that wasnt the reason.

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Maybe ? Perhaps you should try win sometimes so you wouldnt have to be so childishly pity to use winning bonus as excuse for your loss :person_shrugging:

Do better next time then :person_shrugging:

Well, the enemy team was better than mine. But individually their three top players combined weren’t better than me. :man_shrugging:

But they were able to build three times more rally points than me (because that’s how game is designed). :man_shrugging: in a game mode where rally points are really important. That’s literally the only reason they won.

Again, this makes no sense. Tell me, how would you win a match like this on your own?

I bet you’d instantly desert instead. :man_shrugging:

That this is coming from a guy who doesn’t want to get exps/rewards based on his personal performance. But rather wants to get exps/rewards based on the performance of others.

That kind of implies to me that it must be convenient for you. :man_shrugging: and thus you are definitely not someone who can tell me to do better next time

Oh no a team based game where better team wins. Shocker.

So you shouldnt have been there at all in first place but against even better players ?

If I dont I take my loss like a adult ? Rather than cry that better team shouldnt be rewarded for being better team in a team based game.

Whats stopping you ?
If you dont want competition just desert untill you find enemies more suited for your sealclubbing needs.

But you already do get rewarded by your personal performance.

Yeah, I guess im old enough to accept that sometimes I do lose in team based games and theres nothing I can do about it.

But crying and using winner bonus as excuse for your loss works too i guess ?

What ever cupcake, just stick to SP games if you cant deal being bad in team based games :person_shrugging:

Again.
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Huh? I just suggested change that’s removing frustration factor from the game. And actually makes rewarding players for their performance fair.

I don’t know how is that crying. :man_shrugging: You are the one who’s constantly replying way too emotionally. And literally haven’t provided any reasonable solution at all. Just arguing for the sake of arguing.

Well, I would rather have functional game. :man_shrugging:

Again, that is not my point. :man_shrugging: I couldnt care less about winning. But I do care about resources.
I am literally spending money to get them more efficiently. :man_shrugging:

Lmao, yet again. The inability to comprehend what’s my point is truly fascinating.

Perhaps you should just grow up ? Id say it works better than being mad at winning team.

Like skill based matchmake ? Which you kindly opposed I guess due to reason you just want to sealclub casuals.

And once those casuals stack and win you in the game you literally come to cry to forums about removing winning bonus that would not solve the core problem of bad team in any manner.

That has childish pity written all over it.

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A) Patient has recently been seen opposing vehicle restrictions which would essentially fix suicide spam.
B) Patient is currently in delusional state pretending removing winning bonus would solve the playerbase balance issue aka stacks & getting shit teams
C) Patient opposing skill based matchmake because he “doesnt want to sweat”
D) Patient thinks he should get rewarded for invidually sealclubbing casuals.
E) Patient has chosen to show off hes skills in enlisted against CASUALS and opposes skill based matchmake due to not wanting to “sweat”

Sympton indicates to severe case of being childish.
Prescription; Grow a fking pair.

Stop being so bad then ?

No i get your point, you want peacefully sealclub and once your in receiving end you cry for mommy.

That this is coming from someone who, instead of countering my arguments, keeps focusing on my person.
And he hasn’t even been able to offer any solutions. :man_shrugging: He just came here to argue with intention to cause flame wars.

I said a reasonable solution, not a fairy tale solution. I’ve already told you why skill based mm is completely unrealistic at the moment.


I’m not even going to comment the rest of it, these are just pointless insults.

Like skill based matchmake ? Which you yet again opposed because you dont want to “sweat”

Removing win bonus ? That doesnt fix shit.
You still get steamrolled by stack, only thing the removing win bonus would cause is somekind of pleasure for you that regardless you entitled princess lost the game the winner wont get bonus for the win.

Right because you dont want to sweat ?

Eh, fixing the team issue by removing win bonus.
Tell me about pointless :clown_face: