Let’s keep it real, Shotguns are like sneezing at people unless they are right in front of you, in which case it’s like a human sized slap chop. I propose a range and damage buff with shotguns and make it an engineer only weapon, also adding more shotguns for Germany in other campaigns than Berlin
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no Only Assaults for Sub and Shotguns.
but yes Buff Shotguns
If they must remain nerfed, I wouldn’t mind having them on engineers, for the fun of it. They might have a better use for them than assaulters that must replace their smgs for them…
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I somewhat agree but last CBT berlin before ame OBT, engineers with shotguns were too strong in my opinion. They were great in CQC and had all perks for being engineers, it was no brainer pick.
Yes, but I mean in their nerfed state. Not prior nerf 
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Why should an engineer use a shotgun? Just because we all know the engineer of Team Fortress?
Most of the time I get attacked while I construct things, I get shoot from far away. A shotgun would be useless.
A shotgun is a perfect weapon to storm houses, trenches => Assault class!
If this post was a meme, you got me.
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Nah.
Op just meant to make it ALSO usable to engineer class. Because in it’s nerfed state, it’s no better than a secondary weapon and not worth replacing ANY much more potent assaulter smg. Would be to give another use to a fun, but not really useful weapon.
did you know that the Shotgun Nerf for the AIs to use
made them not manage to get a single kill because of the Nerf.
Shotguns should be made to act with realistic damage and spread. (5 damage per pellet at close range, 1.8 damage per pellet at 100m, 9 pellets per shot for the M1912 of the Americans and 15 pellets for the drilling and TOZ-B. 33-50% pellet impacts within a 1m circle at 50m distance. )
Maybe giving them to engineers, not sure, but it would be interesting
I support them being engineer weapons, as hear me out:
Most of the engineer bolt actions are barely qualified to be a unique class weapon, and half of them can still be used by other classes like troopers and radios. As they stand the shotguns are basically useless for assaulters outside of trenches- This is because the high ammo cap, quick reloads and close range mow down of SMGs just simply outperforms the shotguns in most scenarios. Having them as an engineer class would be better, and give incentive to not use the engineers as a trooper that can give you unlimited ammo, because that is literally all my engis are to me; free troopers with unlimited ammo abilities.
Combined with a range buff this would see shotguns being used outside of trenches and corner camping the cap points, so i like this.
They’re really bad right now. They should have a bit further range to be viable and realistic imo. Not sure what to think about putting them on engineers, but as it is now, the SMG is easily the best assault weapon.
What is shotgun !? … ow you mean that useless thing i get from bronze order and just dismantle !!
Now i use it only as perfect example of devs extreme nerfhammering - destroying literaly everything in the game to the point of being useless ignored shit !.
same as they did to premium squads.
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I dont care for premium squads… they should be slightly more worse than normal squads and good only for campaign xp farming! maybe bit of overnerf but in this case maybe even justified so nobody can say this is pay to win game !
so, after you compleate the campaign in your words they are useless.
ok. (?)
no. they are worst than a non premium squad in many ways. they were nerfed too much.
maybe later usefull for earning bronze rewards !.. that the thing that actually can transfer to other campaingns
dude. let me break it to you.
i have all the premium squads and they are far inferior than current non premium ones., and i m on last levels on campaigns i play i dont need more weapons, soldiers or what ever. even trivial things like pistols or mines, i dont need another one… i dont have a player to equip it.
so bronze orders means nothing to me. the influx of them are prety much broken. you get too much bronze cards at my xp rates…
equal to me are plenty of players, once you understand that you can maxout a campaign in a matter of days with our xp rates, you would change your mind on defending a simple issue that is the premium squad line-up.
even soldiers, i did level up 20 soldiers from level 1 to 5 stars in 1 week in a few hours of play. do you think i will need more?
look at this:
do you think i need more bronze orders? …
any squad right now at my level and many other player, nom premium, is superior. the only reason is the squad level tree.
all we ask is this:
on a premium squad.
no 7 equal soldiers
no 7 lmgs in a squad
no 7 smgs in a squad
no 7-9 troopers in a squad
but insteed the same compositions as nonpremium squads. for example 4smgs, 1 engineer, 1 bomber, 1 trooper.
Is that too much to ask for your brain to understand? once we finish the campaigns levels, xp means nothing. and i get to last level in a few days. not months. DAYS! earning 30k per batle isnt hard or demanding. ofc some batles are bad or i quit, but most of them are pure xp makers… to a point that i level without any efort.
AND WE DONT WANT ONLY 4 SOLDIERS IN A SQUAD!
and if you gonna answer like you did on another post about “mom’s credit card” i break it to you again, i spend so far exacly 100 euros above HALF of my month paycheck.
about this thread, yes shotguns are on a weak position right now, one of the reasons is them be only avaiable on a class. if they were open to another classes we would see them more in the batlefield,
but, slow reload times, mediocre range and poor ttk, isnt a worth choise.
shotguns too need a rework…
ye i get your point thats maybe ok !.. premium squads in current version only makes sence if game has 50-100 campaign levels… what is actually a possibility as devs will spam the shit out of content , just look at what we are getting already most of content is copy paste with slight modification !
imho premium squads are a failure and wrong concept that is more trouble and gonna continue causing more trouble than it is worth (maybe lol) !!.. they should have made some other way for people to spend money on… i would be fine even with vehicles, or weapons that you can use on all squads , cosmetics as camo etc etc ! … But players would complain aswell , imagine most iconic stuff being under paywall lol… you want Thompson -pay… you want STG 44- pay … you want to beat Soviet tanks in Moscow- pay for p38t lol
current and future premium squads just need a techtree.
nothing more.
they deliver unique weapons and xp boosts on early campaigns, latr they are just another squad. inferior to any non premium one.
Yes they are laugably bad
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