Because you order them and give them the equipment.
Also that will hardly kill tanks in greyzones
First few battles for newbies are already full bot matches. A that experience is way worse than being wrecked by paratroopers with RD-44 on BR2.
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What’s the point in getting people to stay in a PvP game by allowing them to avoid PvP? That being said, facing players is still one of the worst things in this game. It’s never enjoyable or interesting on its own, regardless of whether or not you win. The only possible “fun” can come from humiliating others. which is hardly healthy for the game.
Either way, “bot farms” is a non-solution. It only destroys the game and the playerbase further. Either make it a proper PvE game, or make PvP cancer-free.
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As a somewhat new player (1 month or so now) I think a bot farm would not be fun for very long because one thing I did enjoy early on is that I can lose but it still felt like a fight - some fights go good some end as a loss.
The problem for me has been dealing with things no one on my team seems to be able to deal with. This has been frustrating to the point of questioning if I want to keep playing.
If new players are to be kept there needs to be earlier access to essential gear. How come i’m facing germans with panzerfausts, flamethrower halftracks, pz 4s while im here as a US with the A13 or M5, No good AT weaponry as the boysAT gun cant even pen a pz3 unless its side armour and thats tenuous at best. Only explosive packs but they rely on you getting past: tanks cannon and MG, infantry support and get close enough for it to not be thrown over or short. we also need 1 more free squad for non-premium players because until you unlock sniper rifles for regular infantry (if you even can) you can’t adapt as well to the situation at hand
Additionally, we’re running into people who have unlocked engineers, radio operators etc. so mg nests, bombers, artillery strikes, mines and people with very effective and ruthless smgs or lmgs all over while I’m dicking around with my rieseling and springfield because I try to unlock one thing then find out I need another thing sooner like I wanted to unlock the M1 bazooka but now I need to pivot to unlock the engineer and radio operator so I can be helpful but I also want to get to the grant so I can finally have a 75mm. I’ve also been facing so many pz 4s - it feels like every battle theres 2 pz 4s (the good ones with armour skirts) like cerberus at invasion attack points, I saw on another thread the suggestion to make vehicles require a certain number of kills to use which I think could be good so it isn’t always the 2 players with high rank vehicles always spawning in. one thing i notice is my whole team is sitting back away from points trying to snipe people with their regular rifles because we’re so behind and getting shredded that no one even attacks points because its either try taking 1 or 2 out or your whole squad is dead trying to attack into the mouth of hell and you can’t outflank because we’ve already been outflanked by very accurate high rate of fire weaponry
I think the best solution is to make the BR much more intense. I’m BR 1 still. I can’t even access engineers or radio operators because you need to unlock a specific rifle for them which is useless as it already costs me upgrade points to get them which is terrible design really or they should make it blocked “you need to unlock Enfield to get this upgrade” so I know ok don’t waste upgrade points there until we have that. so I should be facing similar people with maybe pz 3s, pumas, and similar unlocks but not at a level that is unstoppable.
One think I enjoy is a certain level of authenticity - you aren’t always going to win and sometimes you will face equipment you aren’t prepared for but it feels like every game is a seal clubbing spree where it isn’t even competitive just massacre after massacre
maybe its just a “get good” type of situation? In which case, I think I’ll go back to warthunder
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The fact is now new players can’t even get a full Assaulter squad cuz the Devs replaced Adsaulter I with Medic… which you are pretty much restricted to Medic Squad if you want to use SMG till Assaulter II… bruh
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It is necessary to retain at least half of the BOT in low BR such as BR0-BR1?
half bot and half new players is nice idea.
No matter how you argue from the sustainability of the game’s future,you can’t even avoid how to keep new players is the first priorities which influences the lifespan of the game.
Although it is despicable to say so that increase the sunk cost for new players,but its necessary to keep them stay rather than that flinching at the high strength PVP with experienced players on low bount and choosing to leave only after one or two day playing on PC or PS ,right?
Moreover, based on the current weapon trees,how many hours per day to keep up with the progress of the majority?its long even maybe 1-2years.
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This is not the definition of botfarms though, at least not how it was used to describe the old one-sided matches.
And again, you will eventually face more/ better players in higher tier/ranks whatever and solution cant be to keep playing against bots only or even mainly because they wont prepare for anything, specially for tankers and pilots, and keep hiding in bot only/ vast majority matches is not how the AI was supposed to be used. This is just inflating the “final meeting” and is actually worse because people are getting tricksed into believing this game is super-easy.
You wont improve if you dont even want/ cant. These are supposed grown-ups, not some bad parody of modern generations.
If people suck so much, they can still playing customs only.
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It isn’t “despicable”, it’s self-destructive. You don’t get longevity by tricking players, you delay their response to reality but make that response harsher, more irreversible. Even those who don’t see the tricks feel the psychological pressure, which inevitably leaves them bitter and eventually burned out.
Just because this approach has been normalized by gaming giants doesn’t mean it’s good. Look around the gaming industry, it’s collapsing under the weight of its own corruption and lack of care for the long term.
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where is this at all a good idea? Post Merge it feels like most games come down to the wire which is more enjoyable for most. Bot farming does nothing but baby you and ruin your skill level because the bots suck. and if your friend played for 2 hours, a min of 4 battles, in tier 1 and 2, it’s a skill issue sir. 35 and 5 is enough to outfit a squad after 4 games
BR1 really needs to fight BR1 or tops BR2.
I’m a “veteran” player and can play any BR, but taking a BR1 setup to battle for fun like T-26 or Pz 38t with bolt actions makes no sense because 9/10 times you’ll be fighting BR3 sweatlords with Pz IV J + flamethrower + G41 / KV-1 + SVT-38 + PPSh-41 box + flamethrower.
BR1 just makes no sense to play right now.
No to bot farms though. Real players is the fun.
Game needs to be BR1-2, BR3-4 and BR5. This way bolt actions fight bolt actions, semis fight semis and the assault rifles fight assault rifles.
Also bolts v bolts is similar to how it actually was early war. And semi v semi is somewhat what it was late war. And the full autos can fight themselves in their BR 5 fantasy land.
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Didn’t give them any orders. They just threw grenades on their own while i was busy with someone else and a tank just popped next to me from behind a building. Also the flamer did it on his own too. I was fully expecting him to go into meele when someone’s squad popped up around a corner but he went full BBQ crazy and made them extra crispy.
Game needs to be BR1-2, BR3-4 and BR5. This way bolt actions fight bolt actions, semis fight semis and the assault rifles fight assault rifles.
Also bolts v bolts is similar to how it actually was early war. And semi v semi is somewhat what it was late war. And the full autos can fight themselves in their BR 5 fantasy land.
This
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I have only have had one game like that as most the time you stomp or get stomped
im sorry to hear that. i have been playing tier 2 USA and it feels like it comes down to the wire everytime. Tier 5 USA, Soviets, or Germans is just filled with crazy amounts of hackers. i got hit by a tank shell 3 times in a row at over 500 altitude. Don’t play Tier 5 and the game usually goes down to the wire.
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tier 3 and 4 US Soviets and Germans