Make BR1 - BR4 more authentic to WW2

[Veekay45]

@Dregomz

BR5 it was Stalingrad 40% of the time for GER/USSR

Well not for me, I’ve quit 100% of high BR Stalingrad games until today.

However, that Gaijin video aged like milk indeed lol now that you get T-28s invading Berlin

[GiltBurrito7238-live]

I’d like if this game was a little more historical but I accept it is what it is

I have my own little immersion bubble. Sure there are King Tigers and Maus rolling around North Africa but all I care is my loadout is chronologically correct for the map. Even my own rule isn’t 101% historically accurate. The FG 42 may have entered service in 1943 but it didn’t arrive in time for Tunisia. But like I said I keep it simple just by going by year and its the best I can do

[Yuri_Enjoyer]

Honestly, I think BR3 is probably the “best” representation of WW2. You got run of the mill tanks like Panzer IVs, Shermans and early model T-34s. Standard model planes like the 109 and P38. Infantry guns are typically ones that were mass produced, like Garands, MP40s, Beretta M38s, BARs and MG34s. Every now and then you got BR4 kit dropping in like MG42s and Panthers/Tiger Is. It’s pretty chill overall.

[Veekay45]

@GeneralBrus

keep BR1 - BR4 authentic

And yes I agree with the suggestion by @GeneralBrus

I see 2 ways to do this:

@Veekay45

Option 1.

Create BR6 “Operation Unthinkable” with a ±0 MM rule and put all the prototypes, paper tanks and cold war stuff there.
You can even matchmake any faction with any faction on any map (like some players always wanted), for example Germany vs Japan at Stalingrad.
But ±0 MM means that BRs 1-5 stay strictly WW2.

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Option 2.

Make BR5 this “hAha FUn” ±0 BR, and separate it from BRs 1-4, while moving all the actual WW2 stuff down to BR4.

Important: if StG-44/Tiger 2/etc. cannot be nerfed and simply must have counterparts in the form of Hyde/Ho-Ri, they can go the new separated BR category.

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The separating line proposed is “was it a real thing on the ground in WW2?”

@Veekay45

Option 1.

Create BR6 “Operation Unthinkable” with a ±0 MM rule and put all the prototypes, paper tanks and cold war stuff there.
You can even matchmake any faction with any faction on any map (like some players always wanted), for example Germany vs Japan at Stalingrad.
But ±0 MM means that BRs 1-5 stay strictly WW2.

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Option 2.

Make BR5 this “hAha FUn” ±0 BR, and separate it from BRs 1-4, while moving all the actual WW2 stuff down to BR4.

Important: if StG-44/Tiger 2/etc. cannot be nerfed and simply must have counterparts in the form of Hyde/Ho-Ri, they can go the new separated BR category.

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The separating line proposed is “was it a real thing on the ground in WW2?”

[Yuri_Enjoyer]

Make Enlisted cold war, they obviously want to leave the WW2 setting behind anyways.

[S-G-44]

@Comrade Sina

imagine the FG42 against the Garand.

well i did that and it didint ended to good for me (i was using m1 garands cuz a mate asked me to play br 5 US where i have absoluty nothing lol)

[robihr]

@Yuri_Enjoyer_

Honestly, I think BR3 is probably the “best” representation of WW2. You got run of the mill tanks like Panzer IVs, Shermans and early model T-34s.

well yes and no. yes for overall ww2, no for individual campaigns e.g. moscow where you didnt get panzer 4 with long 75mm gun.

[Veekay45]

@Yuri_Enjoyer_

I think BR3 is probably the “best” representation of WW2

It used to be before they did this cringe “test” where you take a M4 Sherman and get to fight Panthers in Tunisia, or take KV-1 and get T-28 and BT-7 alongside you in… Berlin.

[blu3eyessS91-psn]

You and cpt. Sebekel enjoying our selfs really? Just calm down will ya

[Adamnpee]

I had literally dropped that conversation out of my mind long before you replied.

Typical speed of a console player.

[GeneralBrus]

I was thinking if this step is supposed to bring Enlisted closer to Warthunder - and ultimately merge the two games together, if this is even planned who knows… but yeah that would explain it quite a bit.

[GeneralBrus]

@Veekay45

It used to be before they did this cringe “test” where you take a M4 Sherman and get to fight Panthers in Tunisia, or take KV-1 and get T-28 and BT-7 alongside you in… Berlin.

Well trash tanks fighting in Berlin hurts me less than time travelling Tiger II or even Jets in Moscow.

Sure KV2 fighting in Berlin is already crazy, since most get destroyed… even prior to Stalingrad if I had to guess.

The thing is, they really should consider turning BR5 specifically into a “what if the war continued” BR, they could even adjust early war maps to make them look a bit different - like as if a couple of years have passed and the war turned around, different tank wreckages, snow in Normandy some attempts at rebuiling destroyed cities etc.

BR5 could allow for alot of creativity - BUT the other BRs should stay very accurate to the actual war.

[Adamnpee]

@Veekay45

@Yuri_Enjoyer_

I think BR3 is probably the “best” representation of WW2

It used to be before they did this cringe “test” where you take a M4 Sherman and get to fight Panthers in Tunisia, or take KV-1 and get T-28 and BT-7 alongside you in… Berlin.

How exactly did this test change anything?

BR3 had all the maps in the mappool from day one of the merge.