Well in the future i will post one very big Japanese tech tree when i have more time specially with the vehicles there is a lot to be added also a bit more small arms wont hurt we need semi autos with optics and lmgs with optics
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Its been a while that Iāve read the section on the semi autos (when I got the book I jumped on the SMGs immediately and only glossed over the SLRs, guess I forgot about that), either way good find.
Shame there are no pictures Iām aware of that show the mentioned scopes, which is weird because we do have pictures of the bipods thatāre also mentioned in that section.
It would be really nice if he had any sources for that claim, I checked both its test report (just a quick view nothing too indepth because the handwriting would take longer to translate and I sadly donāt have the time for that rn) and the writing from Sayamas book āMasterpiece Weapons of the Japanese Army - The Ultimate Weaponry Thorough Studyā ę„ę¬éøč»ć®åä½å
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I donāt like that his article has no sources in general, makes the claims somewhat sketchy.
Eh, my personal choice for that title would be https://lautlesen.livejournal.com/ even if he went private after some of his articles got copied, if you can get access to them theyāre really interesting.
Whereās that image from? Also modified by who? That looks like an US optic to me.
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Ok so everyone can have good shit except Japan. By this logic we should remove the RD 44, AS 44, Fedorov, sniper MKb. 42(H). Unless, of course, you can find pictures of these weapons being used. Can these weapons meet your standard? Personally I think the RD 44 (Redundant should be an event weapon) and Fedorov (Anachronistic) should be hidden like the Maus was from War Thunder.
Bruh, calm down, I never said I didnāt want Japan to have cool stuff, Iām a even a Japan main and I finished to research the entire tree recently, thatās my favourite nation right now. As for the RD-44, AS 44, and sniper Mkb 42 (h) iirc they were tested on the field, so I have no problem with it, and the Fedorov was used against the finns, so it was still in use during WW2. My problem with these japanese sniper rifles is the fact that we donāt even know if they were issued with a scope when the japanese pressed them into service, and that uncertainty is reinforced by the fact that they were pressed into service near the end of the war, when resources were very scarce. But as I said, if thatās what the players want, Iāll just accept it, after all weāre far from the level of cod vanguard where they introduced a freaking FN F2000. Iām just nitpicking.
But also, arenāt scoped LMGs cool stuff to you ? I mean, itās pretty unique to the japanese, no other nation really did it as much as the japanese when you compare to the other belligerentsāregular weapons. 
Yes it is extremely exciting to me. I wish we would have them for the Type 96, 99 and 92. It is one of the biggest missed opportunities to make the Japan TT truly unique.
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Hey dude this gun was used extensively by Wehrmacht there are ducuments even pictures showing it was being used by German soldiers the fact is the pruduction numbers are way low but it doesent matter since a year after its production MP43 which is just the evolution of MKB came to production.
The MKb 42(H) was mostly used on the Eastern Front against the Soviet forces. By one account, the gun saw action as early as April 1942 when 35 of the only 50 prototypes then in existence were parachuted into the Kholm Pocket near Leningrad as part of a resupply of the defenders
By March 1943, 2,734 MKb 42(H) were accepted into service, followed by 2,179 in April alone and 3,044 in May; these numbers correlate well with the Haenel estimates for these months (2,000 and respectively 3,000). Additionally, Haenel estimated that 3,000 were made in June and 1,000 in July, resulting in an upper estimate of 12,000 units for the MKb 42(H)
Funny thing 12k MKB (H) unit is more than the number of type 100 smgs that were produced (8500 unit to 10K unit)
Though about sniper variant well they were only prototypes and ehh Iām OK with them
That why I said SNIPER Mkb.42(H). Because @Suzumebachi14 's argument is that since we dont see it in photos it didnt exist.
Enlisted copied from other successful WW2 games such as Red Orchestra 2 which had the Mkb42 (H) with ZF-41 scope as its best weapon.
In reality however, these scoped ARs were not mass deployed because the 8mm kurz round is too light for long range shooting and scopes were too expensive to be used as āopticsā
These are limitation that dont really effect videogames.
Besides, there were certainly more scoped Mkb42(H)s than Type Hei automatic rifles or AS-44 model 5s.
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Well, if you are interested, hereās one, with a bit of history about it too:
Edit: dunno why, but when I put the link to the website, it just shows the pic instead, it is on Rock Island Auction Company website if you are interested.
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You know what, nevermind, Iāll just copy paste the description of the website:
" Description:
This rifle is probably the rarest and most desirable of all the World War II fully automatic weapons we have had the opportunity to sell, as the MKb 42(H) is truly the grandfather of the German Assault rifles, as well as any follow-on assault designs produced after World War II, including the vaunted AK-47. Consequently, this would be a pivotal piece in any advanced World War II German or military assault rifle collection and is probably the only fully registered, fully transferable MKb 42(H) available for sale! The story for this rifle really started in 1935-37 with the requirement from the German high command to develop a new intermediate-range 7.92mm cartridge. That design was completed and finalized in 1938 upon which the Heerswaffenamt issued the requirement for a new fully automatic assault rifle to be developed using this new intermediate-range cartridge. In 1939/40 the C.G. Haenel firm was tasked with producing a prototype design using the 7.92mm Kurz round. Not to be outdone, Walther also decided to develop and submit a prototype design on their own to compete with Haenel for a future contract. Both rifles looked somewhat similar, with the Haenel design eventually being accepted as the superior weapon. It was truly a revolutionary design in that it used a short operating rod housed inside a full-length gas tube, located above the rifle barrel. The tube was connected to the barrel via a front gas block which bleed off gases to cycle the action. The rifle was quite unique in that it was mostly fabricated from sheet metal stampings and a limited number of machined parts; basically the bolt, barrel assembly and some springs. The design was well received by the German high command and Haenel was awarded a follow-on contract for further production development of this weapon. This rifle design was continually improved upon throughout the war and eventually evolved into the MP 43/44 designs issued to various Waffen-SS troops during the Battle of the Bulge. The Mauser factory continued to improve the design which finally evolved into the last configuration which was the āStG 44ā. As part of this follow-on work the Haenel company included in this weapon a new design made up of two small bumps or bulges on each side of the rear sight base. These bulges would form the base of a yet to be developed future sniper scope/mount design. This new scope mount followed the same concept as the Mk 42 rifles in that they were truly a flat sheet metal design, folded and welded with minimal machined parts. They were actually more of a shooting aid than a true sniper scope/mount. These stamped sheet metal sniper scope mounts are extremely rare with only a handful even known to exist today. There is a fairly detailed write up on these early super rare rifles and the even rarer āsheet metalā sniper scope mounts in the book āThe German Sniperā by Senich on page 369-381. This weapon is fully functional and is marked on the left rear side of the receiver: āM.Kb.42(H)ā with a small āfxoā manufacturers mark on the underside of the receiver. There is a small import mark on the underside of the front portion of the receiver. It has an all blued wartime finish with a walnut stock. The ultra rare, sheet metal scope mount is an original World War II version that is correctly unnumbered, and correctly stamped on the left side with an intertwined āM/Wā surrounded by a wreath. This proof mark is the factory mark of the āMerz-Werkeā of the Merz Brothers, Frankfurt. This company was the prime producer of stamped receivers for the MP43/44 rifles. The scope rings are even steel stampings that screw into a threaded nut located on the mount itself. The scope is also an early all blued version marked with āZF 41/1ā on top of the tube. This rare assault rifle is accompanied by one original āMKb/42ā marked magazine, one āMP43ā marked magazine, two āMP44ā marked magazines, a reproduction canvas/leather triple magazine pouch, and is fitted with an original leather sling."
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The reality of it all is that DF gave Germany all its wunder waffe shit and power creeeped the hell out of the Meta. Now we all suffer for ir.
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If I recall Jumbo appeared in beaches of D-Day before any cats.
What comes to soviets, its quite hard atm to figure out single infantry weapon that was given to germans but not counterpart for soviets.
Yup, weāre just here to suggest things to them here, whether DF considers our proposals and decides to implement them or not, we canāt do much about it. Itās their game after all, they know whatās best for it (at least I hope so 
). They might not even have time to read them because they are too busy. 
No no, your standard is a picture of it being used in battle anyone can take a ZF41 and put it on an Mkb 42 today. We are talking about 1945 picture. Of it in the battlefield. Im not being serious I dont expect you to actually find a picture of an MKB with a Zf41 from the war. Im just pointing out how flawed your reasoning is to not at a sniper Type Ko
Not much interested in Japan Ground forces, But the Airforce is another matter
This beast is way up there, also the N1k2
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As far as I know, the writing of the article above was done by the same person known as LAUTLESEN. You can meet him on different internet resources, so I think he is also involved in the writing of the article that I have linked above.
On Twitter (or as itās now better known, āXā), the only caption that was there said the photos were taken in Okinawa. But the sight does look more like an American one, in any case itās more of a joke than a serious suggestion to add a Type 97 with optics.
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Ah I see, my bad. But still the lack of sources makes it hard to agree, like I said in the sources I know its not mentioned at all.
Got a link? Sadly couldnāt find it after a quick search
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Ah Taki, I see, thanks.
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I feel blessed to see people here trying give the love to the faction who is forgotten by the company and for certain users who want they delete the faction, yes, they are people who said me they should delete japan
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