says 12.7 mm in the vehicle description, so it sure is a 50. cal, though I would agree that this alone does not justify one BR step alone.
I would argue though that the STUG has the same armor as the BR1 Panzer III J, while the M10 is at least sloped.
I dont see the M10 in BR4
but I also dont see the Stug in BR3 to be honest.
well.
yeah.
even if we’ll get pershings, i’d still gonna pick up shermans 76s or m18s with the 76s.
rather quick, have coax, great HE and don’t move like a crippled dog.
even though, they don’t have great armor opposed as tigers or panthers from the front.
well Jagdpanzer IV L70 should be BR 4, but for what ever reason no one understands does the Jagdpanzer IV with the shorter 7.5 cm gun only have 60mm of armor instead of 80mm - I dont think that ever existed to be honest.
if anything these vehicles should sit in BR4 with 80mm of armor as a progression vehicle - so that you get the Jagdpanzer IV with the panther gun in BR4.
also sloped armor of 60 mm is apparently too strong for BR 3.
I am playing m18 over Sherman 76 all the time. But I am not saying m18 is better. Because it isn’t.
I really don’t care which tank you prefer. I am just saying there’s no reason for why Shermans 76 should be on BR5 meanwhile Panthers and T-34/85 are BR4.
This isn’t about your personal preferences.
now that doesn’t make sense for an argument, why do you think the Pershing will be slow or have bad HE?
It will pretty much perform the same as Shermans while having better armor and penetration.
it will be a straight upgrade.
90mm HE is worse than 76mm HE.
Makes sense.
i never claimed the t29 having bad HE.
so y’all can keep your own words into your own mouths.
not mine.
all i’m saying, is that the T26, based on wt and i can bet my money in enlisted too, is slower than a sherman. and the steering is worse too.
let alone the actual reload ( around 9 seconds up to 16 seconds or possibly even more if loader is dead ) opposed as opposed to 7 / 5 seconds ( depending situation etc )
you tell me.
personal preferences i guess.
it is not.
only for the armor.
So does a T-34-85.
If 390g HE is amazing, I cant imagine how twice more g of the T-34 is. Also often OHKs Tigers without ammo racks.
But it has no MG on turret, so ofc its only BRIV.
Because everything else makes even less sense.
i highly suggest you to re-read the whole argument than jumping on points and assumptions.
by that logic people should pick Panzer IV H over Tiger II H because they drive faster and reload faster
Oh yeah I forgot.
Thats even lower standard.
pz iv H isn’t generally better than or worse than a king tiger.
( on the other hand, the J is worse than these two combined … go figure i guess?)
all to say, just different.
which the actual stug does not have those " lower standard " too.
as well as the m10.
which to reiteterate and i’m not gonna entertairn a second of your side tracks,
→ m10 should not be a tier 4 vehicle. but a tier 3.
uh? Tiger II H is a king tiger right?
( meant panzer iv h )
No. It just has worse ammo, worse armor but hey it moves 5kmh faster. Very important for greyzone camping.
And 76mm Shermans and M18 should not be BRV but thats too much to ask for because of their insane stats of having worse HE than a Russian IV tank or even a BRIII Sherman.
So Pz IV H isn’t worse than KT.
But somewhat Pz IV J is worse than KT just because it has slower turret traverse speed than Pz IV H.
Make sense.
just an healthy biased hate against that piece of junk 
I will be honest… I’m kinda new to the forum; don’t know if any of you have any history with each others BUT…
A. I would prefer to keep the conversation on the M10 if possible, but anything goes at this point, I guess?
B. Even if the M4s with 76 gun got moved down to BR IV, there is nothing to stop you from using them in BR V, right…?
C. The JP players at BR IV have their own bigger problem at BR IV called the Jumbo and the M4A1 76 already, I don’t think moving the M4A2 76 down would make the situation any worse.
D. I prefer not to make any speculations and form any opinions on any tanks that are not in the game yet. Sure you can base some data from WT, but the Sherman 105 in Enlisted couldn’t blow Panther’s head off with HE to the roof like in WT, therefore speculating anything on the M36, M26, or the super Pershing’s performance right now can go anyway. But that’s just my opinion.
I will say killing a ha go tank with 76 mm is kind of like killing a mosquito with a nuke. I think they thought of the Japanese before moving it to br 4.