The trouble is seeing squads in battlefields they do not belong on, imagine seeing Japanese soldiers defending Berlin. Russian troops fighting Japanese in Iowa Jima it be immersion breaking. Or hell take to to the extreme and add battle that never happened like operation sea lion. Now people who do not want china as a faction have a point people who did not want Chinese squads should grow up. Many countries fought in WW2 in luding the Philippines and France.
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I fully agree with your point. Weâre currently under a very thin line between adding interesting squads and breaking immersion. Lastly what you said is what I was referring. There were just so many smaller countries involved in both sides. Many had their armies split up between supporting both sides at the same time, giving result to civil war clashes, etc. But yes, the list for adding smaller nations in the form of event squads in the future, is quite broad and thereâs lots of potential content we could have. I feel like we just need to be a bit more open-minded.
I was also initially drawn to Enlistedâs then attempt at historical accuracy, despite some obvious compromises here and there, yet Iâve welcomed many of these recent additions. Like the French partisans and this Chinese squad. Because I want to see this game thrive with new content, and attracting more new players along the way.
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Stop adding âforeignâ stuff until it has its own techtree.
Also stop adding that stuff until there is some sort of map selection.
Now weâre gonna have French squads in the Pacific and Chinese squads in Tunisia.
Totally ridiculous.
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if uk/italy cant get a tech tree how would france china get a tech tree
so you are saying donât add anything but japan, soviet, allies, axis
donât talk
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Itâs not âLUNARâ new year
Itâs definitely Chinese New Year.
Iâm sure a lot of East Asian players in the community group are saying that itâs not just you Chinese celebrating THE NEW YEAR.
We donât want only Chinese people to celebrate Chinese New Year, just like Christmas, and Iâm just as likely to celebrate the arrival of Christmas as Westerners.
We never said that only the Chinese could celebrate Chinese New Year.
In fact, We really blieve in âabout celebrating together as oneâ, âsharing joy with the worldâ
But what we canât accept it when people are clearly celebrating Chinese New Year on that day ïŒ01.29.2025ïŒ but then try to take the âCHINESEâ out of it.
Maybe some smartass saying : âWe should all be more inclusive.â
I didnât force somebody to say âChinese New Year,â and I donât have the power. but this isnât about inclusive.
If you try sayingâ Lunar New Yearâ tries to erase our cultural roots, and as Chinese people, we need to protect our culture.
And, Chinese New Year falls on a different date in every year, which brings us back to âLunarâ.
The Gregorian calendar is based on the Earthâs orbit around the sun, while the lunar calendar it based on the moonâs orbit around the Earth
Chinese New Year it based on a combined solar and lunar calendar, which takes into account the 24 solar terms(Chinese Ancestral Command), leap months, and the lunar cycle to determine the date.
So you can see, using âlunar New Yearâ alone it incorrect and disrespctful to our cultural root.
If we let Luanr be the reference, the first new moon of 2025 should be at 01:27 GMT on January 1, 2025, and people who call the Chinese New Year of January 29, 2025 Lunar New Year should celebrate their New Year on January 1.
Although as a Chinese, We still celebrate Christmas, and thatâs totally fine.
BUT WE CANâT JUST CALL IT âCHINESE CHRISTMASâ.
Thatâs not about cultural tolerance.
Thatâs about stealing and appropriating someone elseâs culture.
The Spring Festival, AKA. Chinese New year, has successfully been added to the World Heritage list in 2024.
I hope everyone celebrating Chinese New Year had a great day.
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Or let the foreign aspect of the squad be available only in campaigns it belongs to.
With upcoming option to change nationalities of soldiers it should be quite easy. Especially if you could change nationality of soldiers for each customization preset separately.
But you are quite right. They should stop adding stuff like this until they figure out scenarios such as âChinese in Tunisiaâ.
It just shouldnât be possible. And itâs annoying that devs are completely ignoring this issue.
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At present, the event has the Japanese infantry first, and then the current Chinese infantry, and then the German infantry or the Soviet infantry?
not saying you are wrong,
but there are few things to consider:
- most people genually do not care.
mostly because one can rebutt with:
- " how really different is it with germans using volkssturm / insert other nation of weapons that they get access to* being in tunisia ? "
or any campaign for that matter with any other equipment.
itâs rather late to fix the said inconsistent issues.
enlisted is more like those 2 am history channels of " alternative history " lmao
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If it were Germany, I would recommend her to be in the German infantry team at the event, so that the Toggle lock party would be attended not only by the United States and Japan, but also by Germany, and I prefer this design of the series of weapons
Well, it should be automatic. (Default nationality for each tech tree should be german, american, japanese and Russian.)
And this nationality could be changed in specific campaigns presets where it thematically makes sense to some other nationality (thus only people who cares would have more unique soldiers. And main nationalities would always be prevalent. Since as you have said, majority of people doesnât care about stuff like that).
Of course, if thereâs special squad like this Chinese one. Or legacy squads from back then. Their default nationality in campaign where it makes sense should be the unique foreign one the squad is based around.
And people simply shouldnât be allowed to pick nationality of soldiers that doesnât fit to specific campaign.
Well, you shouldnât be able to use volksturmm customization in Tunisia just like you shouldnât be able to use Chinese customization in Tunisia.
In the matter of weapons, thatâs already lost cause unrelated to customization aspects I am talking about.
BR level of weapons doesnât even mimic the âthe higher BR, the later in warâ idea anyway.
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This shouldnât be the benchmark to strive towards though.
Those who donât care/know WW2 wonât understand whatâs going on anyway, and those who are passionate about WW2 would appreciate the attention to the topic.
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thatâs the thing though.
devs donât put many details into HA at all because not many people would notice either way. nor they even try. like, look at the HW squads. the hori productions, the 3 burst fed, etc etc. nor actually put alot of effort into what you would like. which would imply rewoking half if not more the whole content.
which itâs just not going to happen.
and, their prime customers are those who just want more daka / stronger things regardless if are remotely historical or not. actually, i would go even further and say shiny different things as long are " unique " which goes against the very nature of ww2 ( that is, for equipment ).
the only ones who tried to care are the cosmetic team department.
i canât commend enough most of their work ( granted, most are censored. but still )
Tbh, it feels like they are the ones who care about the least.
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mhhâŠ
i can see why.
canât bs anyone saying that are 101 reproduction.
but for example, the US paratrooper, the zelthbahns ( on premies ) knochensacks ( german paras camo tunics ), the tan japanese uniforms from that premium tank squad, aussies, sas squad, the mp40 silenced, most german camouflage and basic tunics, the soviet amebas and some others are actually great, nearly spot on.
granted, some of them are hard to mess up.
but for the most part, looks good.
with that being said, the HW squads did produced some abominations.
but after all, it was most likely a comission.
you canât say no to your boss around here.
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Really good post, nuanced, well worded and argued. More people should argue like this
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Ha! I appreciate that, bro. English is not my first language, but I do like trying to get my point across, however I can. Salute!
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Yet for some reason, USSR still doesnât get to fight in Normandy and USA still doesnât fight in Berlin. I wonder what could be the reason. Maybe it IS the historical accuracy after all? The last bits of it, at least.
Pushing this Chinese squad into the game is just such an inconsistent and out of place decision.
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So the avatar appears to have the same uniform as the squad. But why didnât the squad get the red collar insignias which the avatar has?
Thatâs so half-baked it appears intentional. But what is the reasoning not to create those uniforms the proper way?
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It is you who were replying that âEnlisted never mentioned âEnlisted + mil simâ once in their entire existenceâ to a âSearching âenlistedâ + âarcadeâ only have results to this forumâ post, and your proof here was just showing another game appeared to be more realistic (not even milsim) than Enlisted. This is a false and failed support as it has no relation to your reply, my post, and the original topic. When it comes to gameâs identity, what you did was just showing a YT Shorts (they donât even have descriptions) intended for propaganda. If you recognize them then so (more) do those sponsored videos and ads.
Now you were even confusing the topic from milsim to realistic. And I donât know which game is the industry standard of realistic for you, PUBG or Fortnite? You can prove Enlisted is milsim and realistic by comparing with them anyway.
âIts YT descriptionâ.
If you are not going to refer this as milsim then you may need to explain your novel definition about it.
Even the start of this dialogue was just claiming that âEnlisted was once self-advertised as historical accurate, but not nowâ, and what you were saying was Enlisted never did this (again, I donât know what you are really intended to reply) in their entire existence. I have no idea if I should expect you have ever read the text in Enlistedâs main page, like
which kept by Darkflow (and Gaijin) until now in multiple obvious positions.
One thing I remebered clearly about Rising Storm 2 is when you step on the very edge of flame caused by Molotov, you immediately burnt to death as if your whole body is wrapped in white phosphorus.
What this point mean to the conversation?
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