Lower visual recoil of MP 35 and M1A1 Thompson

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The MP35


Let me start with the MP 35. It’s in an odd position. The ZK-383 and recently downtiered Beretta M38 compete in the same BR. Let me just highlight some of the differences.

ZK-383

  • 700 rpm
  • 30 round magazine
  • Bipod
  • 5.6 damage
    *Lowish recoil

Beretta M38 (previously BR IV)

  • 600 rpm
  • 40 round magazine
  • 5.6 damage
  • Lowest recoil

MP 35

  • 540 rpm
  • 32 round magazine
  • 6.0 damage
  • Extremely high recoil

Now why would you use the MP 35 (or even the ZK-383 for that matter)? The Beretta M38 basically does what the two SMGs do, but better. Since the ZK-383 is unique in being a fast firing SMG and having a bipod, and the Beretta M38 had beautiful recoil, good fire rate and a large magazine, what does the MP 35 do that is actually better than the other SMGs (other than hit power).

For a BR II SMG, the high visual recoil makes sense, however, for a BR III SMG, it’s way too high to be useful. The M1928A1 Thompson fires a harder hitting round, but still has less recoil. Which brings me onto my next point.

The M1A1 Thompson


The M1A1 isn’t really trying to compete with any SMGs in BR II, so I’ll cut to the chase. Much like the MP 35, I feel the visual recoil is way too high. Now, I don’t care if it gets uptiered to BR III because of the lessened recoil, but I feel it kicks way too hard compared to the rest of the Thompson family. Plus, I hate the sights of the M1928A1.

Which brings me onto . . .

The Proposal

  • Reduce the visual recoil for both the M1A1 Thompson and MP 35, even if it means uptiering the Thompson

I believe the M1A1 Thompson never really belonged on BR II (that’s what the Lanchester and M3A1 Grease Gun is for). With lessened visual recoil, it would make it a much more satisfying gun to use, especially since it’s sights are so much more comfortable than the M1928A1.

As for the MP 35, it would bring relevance to the weapon in BR III, as it’s overlooked for the ZK-383 and Beretta M38. Hell, I still use the MP 40 in BR III because I prefer the sights and recoil pattern of it compared to the BR III counterparts.

What does everyone else think?

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I somewhat agree on the MP 34, maybe downtear it or give it a slight buff.
The thompson I completely disagree on. Moce it up to BRIII without any buff

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And move the Thompsons in br4 to be 3 all 30 round Thompson’s belong in br3

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This change = move Mkb42 or Kiraly to BR3

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Again I am sure the mined data is for semi auto dispersion, damage is a meaningless difference, ok buff reload and keep kiraly at br4 one br above Thompson, sorry but a literal 3% damage increase is a difference without meaning and who is shooting anyone with a smg at 100 meters

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The only MP 35 I ever consider using in the game are the three event MP35’s I have won at level two. The level three MP35 should not be at level three as it is a level two at best, and it and the event MP35 need a recoil rework IMOP. The ZK 383 is the only level three smg I use, however, I really don’t play a lot of level three Germans.

I would use the M38 that was dropped from level three to level two more, however I have so many premium level two squads that I can’t change the weapons, but if I could I would probably replace half of them with the M38.

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I sadly only have one, but it is an exceptional weapon. It’s a shame the TT MP 35 isn’t better. I actually hate using the ZK-383 and the MP 35. I find the recoil feels terrible on the MP 35, and the sights are too squished on the ZK-383.

I’m still currently using the MP 40 because no other SMGs so far have blown my socks off (at least in a good way).

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I used to use the MP40 a lot along with the M1 Beretta, but over the years having bought too many premium squads, I no longer have a place for them. I love my premium squads, however, if I could change the weapons I would move half of them down to level one and keep my TT assaulter squads at level two, probably using the M38. I won the level two German paratrooper squad. I love the squad but absolutely hate the unique OG-43 weapon. I would prefer to outfit them with Mp40’s if the weapons would ever be unlocked.

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If only they brought out a BR II Beretta M38 with the 30 round magazine. It would be my go to SMG for BR II and III. But of course the Devs don’t even have enough skill to copy and paste a gun that’s already present, and just elongate the 20 round mag or photoshop the 40 round mag.

And possibly, they need the BR III Steyr MP40 with 1100 rpm. It would make up for the absolute shitshow that is Axis BR II / III SMGs (if we’re being honest, the 1100 rpm MP40 would be pretty useless).

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