It is time to round off the Japanese faction 🇯🇵

But was it used in that role?

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Doesn’t really matter what role it was used in real life, Ki-67 can have comparable performance as JU188 in game is good enough.

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Ki-67 will have less bombload than Ju-188 already has in game

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Well with the wing pylon you suggested, it can carry 5 250kg or 3 500kg bomb. Not sure if it can carry more if War Thunder implement it with custom loadout.

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true but it will ain drag that even Ju-188A doesnt have
still, 5x 250kg is still worse than 6x 250kg or potentially more on Ju-188

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3x 500 kg has the same weight as 6x 250kg. And I don’t really Ju188 will get more bombs.

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Ju-188A always has options for more bombs
Ki-67 with wing pylon bombs will have huge drag

Most likely it wont even get wing pylons anytime soon.
personally the best bomb options for Ki-67 will be either the 1x 800kg or 8x 100kg.
Ki-67 was built for range instead of bombload capacity.

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Most likely not gonna be added due to balance issue.

So Ju188 with more bombs on its wing has zero drag?

There is little point of adding it under such configuration.

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Ju-188A has no drag as it is
in order for Ki-67 to match its bombload capacity it would have to have the drag under the wings.

Also Ju-188A is Tier IV
Ki-67 is intended for Tier V

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So what makes under wing bomb of JU188 has no drag but Ki-67 ones has drag?

How is it related to our conversation?

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Ah yes Ju-188 does carry them externally
Eitherway…
If Ki-67 does get wing pylons, its bombload will still be at best on par with Ju-188
How is that going to make Ki-67 broken if its Rank Higher than Ju-188 and especially now that russians are getting Tu-2S

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Hey about this something interesting so Im doing a Japanese mega thread it is going very slowly but Im at pretty decent place with it anyways during my research something caught my eyes .
Type 2A for cavalry(The one chambered for 6.5 was meant for cavalry that needed a portable automatic weapon that was more reliable and lighter than the Type 11 machine gun (model 1922), weighing less than 10.19 kg.) was also tested with 7.7x30 mm ammo and 8.65x30 mm ammo though tests for these ammo never went beyond the scope of laboratory and only 6.5mm variant went for military tests

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Thanks for the info mate. Appreciate it. I will surely be looking out for that thread of yours as and when it comes. :+1:

Tbh I think JU188 worth br5.
If you don’t think so we can just put Ki-67 on br4.
Those Germany br5 attacker are meh in bombload anyway.

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Type 98 LMG

https://forum.enlisted.net/en/t/type-100-and-ideas-for-future-japanese-mgs/154728

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Why Japan is the most ignored faction? It sometimes makes me sad. But hey, my time with enlisted is coming to an end anyway. I will just ignore br 3 and above for Japan and enjoy the game until I retire from gaming all together.

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What makes Ki-67 Tier V tho is its insane defensive armament and speed and climb rate compared to Ju-188

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I wouldn’t say “was tested”, the way I know the story those two were worked on at the same time but not put in any gun. Also where did you get the “x30” part from?

In Japanese reference literature, there is only a brief description of the special cartridge type 95. The Nambu submachine gun for this cartridge in 6.5 mm caliber was made in only two copies and was not adopted by the army. Also mentioned are projects for 7.7 mm and 8.65 mm cartridges, which did not leave the stage of laboratory experiments.

Translated from История развития пистолетов-пулеметов Японии. ч 1: lautlesen — LiveJournal

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Hmm

““The Type II A was intended for army cavalry units that needed a portable automatic weapon that was more reliable and lighter than the Type 11 machine gun (model 1922), weighing less than 10.19 kg. This 6.5 mm. The model was tested for power and ability to hit targets in winter uniform at distances of up to 700 meters. Different sources indicate different parameters for the weight, length and capacity of the weapon (from 2.8 to 3.8 kg, from 638 to 700 mm, 30 or 35 rounds). The tested 7.7x30 mm and 8.65x30 mm cartridges did not go beyond the scope of laboratory research at Nambu Arms.””

Translated from

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This probably means the same thing from the Lautlesen article, i.e those rounds being tried on their own to see performances but not actually put into a proper gun, I recall the first 6.5 testing was done with a converted Type 38 carbine as well (according to Morio).

Hmm but if this

For this model, an experimental 6.5mm type 95 cartridge was developed based on an 8mm (Nambu) pistol case extended to 30 mm, a 6.5 mm bullet weighing 7-7.5 grams and a speed of 550-600 meters per second (approximate data). This 6.5x30mm cartridge (type 95) was supposed to reliably defeat targets in winter uniforms at a distance of up to 700 meters. Based on the same case, ammunition with 7.7mm and 8.65mm bullets was tested, which were tested, but did not find application outside the test benches (unfortunately, there is no more extensive data).

from a message before the one you translated is true then I guess the x30 checks out. Still like I said I find it highly unlikely they made any of the Model 2 guns in 7.7 or 8.65 considering the already low numbers of the 6.5 gun, the lack of data, and (if to be trusted) the story these were tested against the 6.5 round in a lab to pick the ideal cartidge before being used in any gun.

The delay in testing the special Type 95 cartridges (which included 6.5, 7.7 and 8.65 mm calibers) to determine the most suitable caliber led to a shift in the testing dates for the experimental Type I 6.5 mm submachine guns from 1935 to 1937.

(Yes he says Type I here, there is an overall confusion what guns were designated as because there’s like 3 stages of designations for these guns, for now just go with that this basically means the Model 2A gun, I might go into more detail on this one day)
-История развития пистолетов-пулеметов Японии. ч 1: lautlesen — LiveJournal

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