IL-2 is still too powerful - Soviet Bullet Sponge?!

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“Ah s*it, here we go again” - CJ

As I experienced yesterday, that IL-2 hull is still ‘eat’ more bullet than any other plane in this game. With a 70 % of Stuka/BF machine gun bullet are hit the enemy plane, and its still not smoking, burning, damaging criticaly…etc.
sum - Tanky as f*ck.

Did you guys ses how powerful is the IL-2 machine gun? (both use)

Enemy plane front of you > Aim > 3-4 sec constant fire and done…pilot and plane is dead instantly. I never experienced that strong machinegun composition in any planes I flied with. Damn man

@ErikaKalkbrenner Erika attached a video below one of the posts…i forget which one was it, sorry (its was a real good proof)

One of earlier post about IL-2 issue. Imo its a good one

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same thing with normandy, you can literally spend minute shooting A20 with german 13, 20mm and they just wont die while some .50 cal sniped my bomber pilot from literally my 6

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that is because current damage model is still far from being " done ".

( on pretty much the majority of planes )

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IL-2 is to be expected (to some extent) to withstand light fire up to rifle-caliber MG bullets, since armor layers are literally built-in as structural elements.

This said, planes’ DM in general has become extremely spongy.

In WT, German 20mm are infamous because they rip and tear planes apart with just a few hits, while in Enlisted even a sustained burst often doesn’t seem to cause visible damage.

Same with US .50s, the times I score quick kills with them is because I manage to kill the pilot by luck, otherwise several hits are usually required before seeing any result.

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Thats not only issue with il 2.

Every plane is ‘immune’ to mg’s and 20mm cannons. Even if plane startto smoke, looks like that damage dont affect flying anyway.

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Every plane soak up bullets, sometimes even a BF109 takes me years to shoot it down, and there’s many reasons, most common I can think is:

  • bad damage model in Enlisted.
  • latency, it happens in most of air combat online, from Combat flight sim, BF, World of Warplanes…

So I like using BF110 for AA, 37mm don’t have any problem on shooting down planes

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At least the IL was nicknamed “flying tank” for that reason historically… but yes damage models are a bit… off.

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I don’t think it’s bad. IL-2, for exampe, can’t kill so many tanks and infantry as Stuka.

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Plus the IL-2 is slow compared to German planes.

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Not true. Just yesterday downed 2 A-20s in a matter of minutes by specifically targetting the engines. Bullet holes in the main fuselage don’t prevent a prop plane from flying.

The A-10 “Warthog” was modelled after the IL-2 for the reasons of its ability to sustain massive damage and keep airborne.

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i said this based on my experience, how come my experience isnt true? it’s the damage model is kinda dumb

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In what school they taught that bs ?
Everyone knows the star wars death star was inspired & modelled after IL-2.
Some lame ass a-10 that was literally just built around the massive cannon hardly is comparable to glorious IL-2.