Yeah, but they do it in significantly slower rate. But it’s true, they can be sometimes put closer to objective. Since for APCs, it’s always the 50m. That’s not the case for rally points. They do differ according to map/objective. At least from my experiences.
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They definitely do, there’s one invasion mode on one of the Ardenne maps that has the “To close to capture point” up to 70m away.
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Aaaah!
So, paras are indeed no cancer.
Newbies who can’t use them properly are!
Like crash bombers!
Or camping snipers!
Or tank spammers!
Effectively not the paratrooper class fault.
In short:
It’s fine if you hate the class. Others dislike snipers, others tanks…
But don’t create make believes that they’re cancer, when it’s just players not knowing what to do, that are the problem.
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yes
yep i find its 50m USSR, 60 Tunisia, 70 Normandy and Pacific 70
except they are because facilitate the dooming of the team of who has more of them.
and can work the other way around.
with literally anyone having paras left and right, more rallies will be placed and matches will last much shorter.
just because you guys never experienced the worse shenanigans that can happen, doesn’t mean they don’t exist… or never will.
which, i’ll be honest.
the pvp can go to hell if it wasn’t for the lack of pves so i wouldn’t have to deal with those shenanigans on the daily. but before then and since that is not the case, i’ll try to not let this game be a living hell for the time being unlike some of you wants.
even if it involves your fun.
also, no harsh feelings but
balance & quality of matches > fun of someone & results of matches lasting much less
didn’t saw this.
but idk how can someone completely miss the mark by this much
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Im concerned about “everyone” getting paratroopers.
I bet DF will put paratrooper squad at the very end of the progression tree, nothing will stop veterans from equipping low BR weapons to sealclub new players.
Also what about the box?
Will players just unlock the paratroopers and magically get all of the box’s content without researching MGs, sniper rifles, mortals and AT weapons, that would be way too easy to exploit.
Until these issues are not fixed, there is no point to add more paratrooper squads.
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Yeah, but it doesn’t mean the whole game should be influenced by it.
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i beg to differ
restrictions are what puts people in place.
free choice is what causes chaos.
considering the paratrooper matter,
there are more negatives than benefits by letting literally everyone have them.
which, i don’t see what’s wrong by limiting them behind premium or events.
literally nothing.
f2p or anyone will still be able to get them, just not at a drastic rate.
give them more value, and something to hook up people for too.
so far, what i’m getting from the counteropposition is:
" nuh uh. don’t like it "
which, that’s fair. but i’m not sure how that actually counts.
or
" they’re not a problem "
when they are.
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You are accusing paras as whole of being problematic. When in 90% cases they are not.
Your whole argumentantion is just one specific scenario which I have most likely never experienced. Or I dont remember experiencing it.
But somehow, this little insignificant scenario should decide fate of one whole class. That’s kinda ridiculous ngl.
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reminds me of how engineers had access to AR.
why were people against?
some individuals liked that.
yet devs removed that, and will ( theoretically ) put them behind an event.
why should para be any different?
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And they’ll have. Since AR engineer squads are planned for all factions.
And so should be paras for tech tree.
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If you haven’t seen the trailer on steam for enlisted there’s a paratrooper in it so the steam players will be expecting their own tech tree paratrooper eventually and the reason why I made this post is to stop them from becoming any more powerful like the premium ones or the event ones.
Skip to one minute 17 second
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except, paras are part of the problem due to their capability, and their short sides.
because they can spawn and have engineers with them.
which the problems increases when those tools are given to good / bad players.
the overhal matches time will just shrink.
because of 7 rallies, or 7 idiots spawning one wave after another onto the point.
you can’t make that up.
and yet you guys are failing to see that?
clueless at best.
ignorant, at worse.
therefore never happened. right?
sure bud
except, it would tune them down and literally change nothing of how they are being used.
just how many are being used.
it’s not that deep.
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And it’s better to make the attack now before people get their hands on it and start complaining when something’s taken away
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where?
AR engineers were planned for all factions through events.
paras on the other hand, it’s no where written that they will be for tech tree.
just speculation on your part i’m afraid.
but, just like those engies with ar as events, paras should remain as events.
not given like candies because someone likes it.
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That’s why i have said “should be” not “they are”.
Paratroopers are already strong as they are, making them even stronger would create a huge gap between new and old players.
Paratroopers jumping on top of objectives is already problematic enough as it is.
Sure I shoot them, when I see them, but on maps like airfield, they comfortably land on top and kill unsuspecting AI.
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It’ll get much worse on steam especially in end game
Since paras were introduced I said it’s a bad design. But ppl didn’t care and I was silenced. So why should I care now?
No, they don’t need another slot to compete. They need it to chave more choises and thus more fun.
I know what I say, I’ve played with 4 lots for 3y now.
Same with paratroopers. Except they are a fully paywalled mechanic unlike anything else
Nah, I just don’t understand why everything was fine when paras were gatekeept but suddenly it’s a big problem when f2p can get them.
Hipocrisy.
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Paratroopers are an elite force, especially in WWII, as such, they should remain a rare prem/event squad reward. Having them as a TT variant would be too game changing, and would change the entire meta of the game, furthermore, I am against DF adding paras as a regular TT squad. They should remain as they are, an elite rare premium/event squad.
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