Only reason we have to do this type of stuff is because Soviets and the allies get away with murder while we get limited in the most obscure ways and stuff which don’t even make sense.
German: 1legacy squad+1event vehicle(in silver box)
USA:2legacy squad+1legacy vehicle+1BP vehicle(not in silver box)
Spamming M8 in US faction actually need more legacy than german
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Can I tell you that T-28 guns can’t penetrate 50mm armor well?T-28 is not T-28E.
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And only first tank has HEAT while rest is completely defenseless against tanks unlike M8 Scott.
IAR is good but that’s only one plane and they have zero rocket spammers, their bombers are trash.
Good you will be only using it to grind infantry, two other can deal with a panzers you can switch it for BT-7A but you will be sacrificing it’s MGs.
APCBC is enough to deal with BRII tanks
M8 can fight uptier but that’s a trade of no firing ability while moving, outrageous 6° turret turning speed, no coaxial, and hellcat style commander which makes you having 3 crew most of the time
Then you should really like the Pz.3N of BR3. Now it has a better HEAT and can even destroy KV-1. Of course, it can also slaughter infantry.
Even M1/M3 Medium? You can run two of them in a same lineup as alternative to M8 Scott. And it’s shell struggles hard as you need to hit driver visor to reliably destroy it and at very long distances it’s almost impossible, T-28E loves to eat multiple shells so it will take multiple shots to destroy just one tank.
Vs uptier you are screwed and they will be laughing at you, while M8 can still murder Pazners of BR3 as they have ultra weak armor (with very few outliners)
Panzers are much slower so it doesn’t really matter you will not be hitting anything accurately without stopping anyway.
camp in a greyzone as intended by DF and you will do fine, losing MG gunner won’t affect your reload speed
We are talking about BR2 and at BR3 you will be fighting vs Soviets carrying Panzerfausts at every occasion only vs Americans you may consider that tank to be buffed.
If Pz.3N still doesn’t satisfy you, then T-28 is completely useless.It still lacks the ability to destroy enemy tanks even in fragile armor, and people would rather use the T-50.
@Dregomz , To be honest, I don’t quite understand the point of the post. Could you explain, please?
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peak exploit but some tank selections are kinda questionable 
M8 Scott spam = win. One tried to destroy my tank from far range with grb-39 and guess what? He died and murdered only my transmission.
Devs removed ability to spam German tanks that can easily destroy waves of infantry, only veterans still can do this however it’s complicated as you need multiple old legacy squads/premiums and old event vehicle.
While Americans can constantly circle same HEAT/HE spamming M8 Scott plus rocket spamming planes like P-38G, there was no change or any outrage of the community
For Soviets it’s not as easy to spam as they need to use different tanks instead 3 copies of the same vehicle and buy premium M3 Grant to do the same as Americans but they are better protected, their planes are even better than of Americans if you like bombs.
Moral of the story is that Germany and Japan are not allowed to spam HE/HEAT throwers and rocket planes while Americans and Soviets can with no problem and there are no further changes.
You said it yourself already…
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While I sympathize with the issue of removing the Pz.3N from BR2, I’m surprised no one pointed out the obvious to you.
If the M8 requires spamming three times, then it’s obvious just a way for opponents to get easy tank kills, as said person keeps spawning the thin-skinned M8, and their team loses, since they have an inferior tank-player.
I main BR2 German, and love tank play. I also LOVE encountering M8s because I eat them for lunch. I couldn’t tell you the exact number, but I probably take out M8s on a 5-1 or 10-1 basis.
I also hate the rockets. Have certainly had my fair share of tanks blown away from them - but the number isn’t huge, and after the second time in a match, I go play assault or something, since the tank is powerless against it. (I’ve been able to avoid a few shots, now and then, but someone who’s very good with rockets makes the tank a waste of time and effort for the team. But again, this is rare - probably once every twenty matches or something.)
In the end, I find my biggest fear in a German tank is enemy AT soldiers. I die to them FAR more than anything else, unless I’m up against BR3 tanks. And I’m not a gray zone player - I tend to get within 80M (or closer) when defending or 50M or even on point when attacking.
And to me, that’s where it’s unfair for Germans. Americans and Russians have excellent AT soldiers at BR2, while the Germans have crap.
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Giving the 3N HEAT rounds from the start was a mistake, making it OP with no weaknesses in armor, mobility, anti-tank, or anti-infantry. With just APHE and HE, it fit BR2 perfectly. DF’s dumb fix was moving it to BR3, where Germany has enough tanks.
The M8 has weak armor, no coaxial machine gun, a slow turret, and an open-top design that’s easily destroyed. The T-28E is limited to one vehicle, huge, and prone to getting stuck on terrain. The Type 2 Ho-I lacks a coaxial machine gun, has a slow fire rate, and loses its loader to a useless hull gunner if a crew member dies, crippling its firing speed. Even without HEAT, the 3N was already BR2’s best tank. With HEAT, it can even take on many BR3 tanks. Who made this idiotic decision?
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Panzer IV F1 is trash against good armored opponents, but still amazing against infantry - arguably even more so since it carries more ammo than Panzer IIIN.
Basically its a super powerful anti infantry vehicle that needs support to function - which isn’t optimal in a game full of weak players.
In other words Germanies main tanks for BR2 are Puma, Marder and Panzer III J1 - which have the same or even less armor than BR1 Panzer III J.
This is an issue in BR2 because that usually means getting one hit killed all the time.
The 50mm L60 gun of Puma and J1 is not bad, but also not crazy strong, it doesn’t have enough post pen damage to compensate for being one hit killed constantly.
Marder is actually quite nice, the long 75mm gun is a blessing to have in BR2 + it even has a MG, but open top tanks can only be effective in specific scenarios where you dont have to worry about infantry and planes.
I still say STUG III F must be lowered to BR2, its essentially just the Marder with equally poor armor - but trades roofing for having no MG.
Basically if more dedicated anti tank players would be on the German field - Panzer III F1 could get a chance to do its job.
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Hard to take that dude seriously when they unironically suggest moving the mkb42 to BR 3 lol
I will admit I love those kinds of posters, always gives me a good chuckle reading the posts.
My favorite parts are where they contradict their own arguments within the same thread
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You are the same one who wants the Mkb 42 in BR III and as a rifle weapon, with only this argument that I just gave you your opinion loses total meaning